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    Another question rather than a reply - I'm going bonkers! I just tried WhatInStartup b/c I'm having a terrible time with the first hour or half hour of the computer starting. It's not the boot up time, but what goes on after that. (Tried Soluto to show the boot up time - it's a couple of minutes.) For the first period of time, as I mentioned, everything is really slow, then it's fine the rest of the day (except to see at times the unresponsive script notice!). The WhatInStartup confirms that only 2 things are running then, but should one of them be AVG? Besides what is built in to XP, AVG is a virus checker. I use Spybot, but disabled tea timer - too slow, and run Spybot or Malewarebytes after using the computer, but they don't run while it's in use. Any ideas?

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    Question for you, Doctor. This is the issue I'm desperately dealing with b/c of a slow start. In your list in blue letters, I know I can disable task scheduler (have heard it's a big user), but are those other items some that can also be disabled in the services list? Thanks to all who help us beginner/intermediate types.

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    Please tell us more about the system. What are your hardware specifications - CPU, RAM, Disk size, disk used or free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Love View Post
    Question for you, Doctor. This is the issue I'm desperately dealing with b/c of a slow start. In your list in blue letters, I know I can disable task scheduler (have heard it's a big user), but are those other items some that can also be disabled in the services list? Thanks to all who help us beginner/intermediate types.
    Disabling sevices can be a tricky thing, Newton's third law definitely applies here;

    This is the best site that I know of for looking over services and deciding which to place on the disable list.
    BlackViper: Windows XP x86 (32-bit) Service Pack 3 Service Configurations
    BlackViper: Windows 7 Service Configurations

    Why can't I use msconfig to change my services?
    The reason is because with msconfig and Hardware Profiles, you can disable services that may be vital to boot your system. With the management console (services.msc) you cannot. Also, msconfig, while unchecking the box, is disabling the service.
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    You may have several applications trying to check/download updates at startup. This can really slow down
    a PC.

    The 2 worst offenders are Windows and Adobe. I shut off the automatic updates for Adobe. They issue updates only about
    every 3 months sh it does not need to check every day. This applies to Adobe Reader as well.

    I also have my windows update set to only notify me when updates are available but not download. This allows me to
    manage updates when it is convenient for me.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Love View Post
    Another question rather than a reply - I'm going bonkers! I just tried WhatInStartup b/c I'm having a terrible time with the first hour or half hour of the computer starting. It's not the boot up time, but what goes on after that. (Tried Soluto to show the boot up time - it's a couple of minutes.) For the first period of time, as I mentioned, everything is really slow, then it's fine the rest of the day (except to see at times the unresponsive script notice!). The WhatInStartup confirms that only 2 things are running then, but should one of them be AVG? Besides what is built in to XP, AVG is a virus checker. I use Spybot, but disabled tea timer - too slow, and run Spybot or Malewarebytes after using the computer, but they don't run while it's in use. Any ideas?
    when was the last time you did defrag?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP View Post
    Please tell us more about the system. What are your hardware specifications - CPU, RAM, Disk size, disk used or free.

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    I'll have to look later,Joe, I'm using a different computer today. Bong, it's been a while since defrag; will try that. Robert, I do the same with Windows updates, but I'll check on Adobe. I have noticed in task manager, that the service that checks for Windows updates is a huge "hog" every time, even when there are no updates to download. I won't mess with that one though. I'll check Black Viper, Clint.

    Thanks to all.

    PS I'm Annie, don't know why the other name is showing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandy Wire View Post
    I'll have to look later,Joe, I'm using a different computer today. Bong, it's been a while since defrag; will try that. Robert, I do the same with Windows updates, but I'll check on Adobe. I have noticed in task manager, that the service that checks for Windows updates is a huge "hog" every time, even when there are no updates to download. I won't mess with that one though. I'll check Black Viper, Clint.

    Thanks to all.

    PS I'm Annie, don't know why the other name is showing?
    a run of ccleaner, deleting all temps regularly, degrag of system, uninstalling stuff that you rarely use, a good AV not resource hog, disabling all running application in the background that you really dont need, all those stuffs helps aside from upgrading your hardware installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP View Post
    Please tell us more about the system. What are your hardware specifications - CPU, RAM, Disk size, disk used or free.

    Joe
    Here's what I see with Belarc. (Hope I'm doing this correctly.) 1.20 gigahertz Intel Celeron; 504 MB installed memory; 41 G disk with 29 G free. I use the computer for very basic browsing and email.

    I recently added AdAware, with Ad Watch Live; used to have an old AdAware that wouldn't update. AVG is running, not just doing on demand scans. Are these two in conflict?

    Thanks again

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    Hi Annie, good to see you've regained your old persona ^^

    If you're running a fully-updated XP, ie. SP3, 500MB of RAM on a Celery 1.2 it's always going to struggle; if you can afford to, upgrade to 1GB or more.

    Your free space on the hard drive is fine, no slowdowns should be directly related to that, provided it's defragged monthly or so. And almost nothing in Startup but it crawls after loading to the Desktop? Control Panel > Task Scheduler, what jobs are enabled there?

    What Internet connection do you have, do you know what speed it usually is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Love View Post
    Here's what I see with Belarc. (Hope I'm doing this correctly.) 1.20 gigahertz Intel Celeron; 504 MB installed memory; 41 G disk with 29 G free. I use the computer for very basic browsing and email.

    I recently added AdAware, with Ad Watch Live; used to have an old AdAware that wouldn't update. AVG is running, not just doing on demand scans. Are these two in conflict?

    Thanks again
    for a system such as this i would recommend only sp2 for xp since sp3 takes a bit more amount of memory than the usual xp2

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    Try turning off Windows Indexing. See:
    Speed up XP by turning off Indexing

    This will slow down Windows search which I would replace with:
    Everything Search Engine

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    Annie --

    If this is a recent development, I'd guess you're dealing with the problem (I had it also, running XP SP3 w/512KB RAM) described in this thread.

    The problem is caused by a recent update, which changed the way Microsoft Update runs. The (temporary, anyway) solution seems to be to switch from Microsoft Update to Windows Update as the default.

    Also see here.

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    This is part of a post in an unrelated thread .....

    Here is the part of the post that may apply here ....

    Sluggish XP sp3's in the August time frame

    XP sp3
    Ram of less than 512

    behavior is that when they check in with MU that the machine is sluggish
    to unusable.
    Symptom is that the box is sucking more RAM on wuauclt.exe service

    Right now the only workaround is to flip the box back to WU

    Go into the control panel, windows update, change settings, scroll down,
    change (TEMPORARILY) back to Windows update until we figure out what's
    going on.

    Got emails into WU folks and opened up a security case to get it
    investigated. Think it started occuring pre August patches but it's
    really painful now. Holler if you are seeing similar.



    " I am a LAN administrator and have been dealing with this issue the
    last couple of weeks. What a pain.

    I have had many of my XP machine with SP3 have the same problem. What I
    have observed is that wuauclt.exe uses 600+ mb of memory at peak times
    which turns a 512mb pc into a snail. "

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    Thank you so much, all of you, for the tips. I just returned from a trip and will start working on this issue again. You all have excellent advice. One thing I did today was uninstall AVG free version, and it seems to have made a difference so far, when I restarted. Even the boot time was cut in half, although the real test is what it does after the boot, waiting for the browser to open. Will see about that later. Again, thanks to all; you guys are great!

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