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    I thought I'd start a new thread on this as it seem that another thread was being hijacked by this topic.

    Personally, I don't put too much stock in this score. I currently traveling and using my stock Dell Inspirion laptop with a dual core i5 processor and 4Gb memory. I purposely purchased this machine w/o a supplemental video card, as I had always done in the past, after much research into Intel's attempts to beef up their on-chip video processing capability. I have been extremely happy with my decision. I get much better battery life, the machine runs much cooler, and I can see no discernible slow down in the machine due to the video. It is very responsive and I have no complaints at all. BTW: It seems that Aero is the PIG that is killing my score.

    This said, I don't use it for games other than minesweeper. I do a lot of Access & Excel with massive amounts of VBA and some very large Word documents with TOCs, graphics, etc and a smattering of HTML and CSS. The performance using the Office apps is excellent.

    Moral of the story the Windows Experience Score is mostly for bragging rights and doesn't have any real correlation to how I use the computer, YMMV.
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    I guess you are correct RG. My whole interest was out of curiosity and for future reference. I actually can attest to the heating problem with a separate video card. Even with a laptop desk my lap heats to the point that I start sweating after about 45 minutes of continual use. I have thought about a dynamic cooling system, but have not found anything I liked.

    This does point to the fact that the more eye candy you want on your computer, the more performance is affected. Even though I have much of the performance robbing portions of Win 7 disabled, I do like the Aero interface, and do use some of it. If I set my PC to the highest performance setting determined by Windows. it looks very bland, not at all what I have grown accustomed to. I can very easily live with the small performance loss for the eye candy.

    I was also very curious that Clin's WEI was the same as mine (5.9) even though he has a considerably faster CPU and double the RAM. This points out the myth that strictly having a faster CPU or strictly having more RAM is not the whole answer to increasing speec (performance) in you PC. The entire system has to be viewed along with the apps you are using and how your UI interacts with this system. If you are using apps that need more memory to run, then the extra RAM will be very helpful, but if you are using apps that do not yet max your existing RAM, then adding more RAM will not work to make your system faster.
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    See the NOTE in the first post. The WEI score you see on the Computer | Properties page is the lowest score of the subsystems tested. In the the case of Ted's PC & Clint's PC having the same rating you can pretty much guarantee that it is because of one of the two video video tests.

    See What is the Windows Experience Index? for Microsoft's comments about WEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP View Post
    See the NOTE in the first post. The WEI score you see on the Computer | Properties page is the lowest score of the subsystems tested. In the the case of Ted's PC & Clint's PC having the same rating you can pretty much guarantee that it is because of one of the two video video tests.

    See What is the Windows Experience Index? for Microsoft's comments about WEI.

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    In my case it is the Aero desktop that causes my 5.9, in addition to the HD transfer rate. This is probably because my HD is 5400 RPM SATA.
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    There has to be something desktop aero is looking for that it isn't seeing in most graphics cards because sure, its more persistent but I don't think there's any way its more demanding than some of my games. So why the much lower scores for aero than for gaming graphics? I don't get it, I'll get 6.2 for gaming and a pathetic 3.6 for aero; not that I think performance is suffering at all; to me it just doen't make sense.

    I even have a 2.9 and 3.0 that are supposed to be borderline for aero...don't notice any performance degradation at all. Maybe its like a digital signal eh? Its either on...or nuthin'.

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    Byron, This is wierd because I have 6.6 for gaming and do not really have a gaming rig. I guess it depends on how your system is set up. I do have the attached custom display settings shown here. Perhaps these make a big difference.

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    My hard drive is the lowest subscore here, but an SSD would fix that in a heartbeat.
    The GPU is an old NVIDIA 8800 GT, very nice when it first came out 3 years ago.
    The processor too is probably the best I could get for it's socket type (LGA 775), already
    fast becoming outdated and out performed by the latest i series.
    The computer is pushing 3 years and is my first build. The bulk of my heavy lifting on this
    machine is in the area of video rendering/encoding. I don't have much use for gaming.
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    I read in a long discussion elsewhere that the best score you can get with a traditional hard drive is 5.9. In order to score higher in that area, you would need an SSD drive. I am surprised by the 5.9 score for a 5,400 RPM drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldb View Post
    I read in a long discussion elsewhere that the best score you can get with a traditional hard drive is 5.9. In order to score higher in that area, you would need an SSD drive. I am surprised by the 5.9 score for a 5,400 RPM drive.
    That's correct, a regular hard drive will alway be 5.9 at best.
    A system configured as part of a fast raid array may also improve the score somewhat too.
    With mine, it doesn't matter that it's a WD 10000 rpm raptor...with regards to the Windows Experience Index score that is.
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    I am surprised by the 5.9 score for a 5,400 RPM drive.
    The answer to that is areal density is significantly higher on large slower drives so thruput is still very good for contiguous data.

    The GPU is an old NVIDIA 8800 GT
    Its a little old but its also one of the classics, I have 2 and one powers a 42 inch HDTV and 22 or 23 inch monitor (also 1920x1080), I sometimes game on the big screen and its rock solid.

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    Byron, This is wierd because I have 6.6 for gaming and do not really have a gaming rig. I guess it depends on how your system is set up. I do have the attached custom display settings shown here. Perhaps these make a big difference.
    Well, I have gaming rigs and then I have the gaming rig, which still isn't anywhere near the latest and greatest but its in the 7.1 to 7.3 for everything except the hard drive perfomance. I stay about 2 years behind the latest games because I can get them super cheap that way and don't need the most expensive hardware. The main gaming rig cost me less than $500 including the graphics card and I pay from 9.99 to $19.99 for games that were $45 to $60 last year.

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    Complex indeed. My WE Score was limited by my Hard Disk Drive. I replaced it with a WD Velociraptor : Twice the speed, (10,000) rpm. My WE score improved by only 0.5.
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    I wondered about that index. I have a 3.4 for Aero and I have it disabled! I would think that would rate a "1".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Schneider View Post
    I wondered about that index. I have a 3.4 for Aero and I have it disabled! I would think that would rate a "1".
    I believe these tend to be estimates rather than hard factual numbers. They are just indicators to look at and attempt to improve. I suppose some tweaking might improve them somewhat but who knows.
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