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    Hi

    I have seen advertizements for gettting TV on a PC using software thtat requires a one-time payment. For example, see link below:

    http://www.satellitepctvsoftware.com

    Is this for real or a scam?

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    I have seen that also and it interested me.
    Who knows, there is probably a catch somewhere but I could be wrong.
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    My understanding is that all this software does is provides a convenient menu with links to TV content that is already freely available to you via the web. In other words, yes, its a scam.

    I've watched a show or two online when I've missed its original broadcast, or forgot to DVR it. Picture quality is fine, but if you're as addicted to Dolby 5.1 surround sound as I am, you'll be very disappointed to find that you will only get stereo from Internet streaming.

    BTW, welcome to the lounge!
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    Thanks for the replies!!

    It's great to have a knowlegeable community out there...

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    Hi,

    If you would like to try this type of software out there is an excellent version that goes by the name "Miro". This is open source so it is essentially free.
    It can be found here http://www.getmiro.com

    There is a lot software software out there that you could pay for like this but they all score very low by the owners reviews.
    I was almost conned into buying a package that included one of these programs, but after doing my research decided it was a waste of money. That was when I came across Miro.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Roberts View Post
    If you would like to try this type of software out there is an excellent version that goes by the name "Miro".
    Miro is also a BitTorrent client. When you install it, can you control whether your PC participates in distributing torrents? Some ISPs frown on torrents. (IP owners, too. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jscher2000 View Post
    Miro is also a BitTorrent client. When you install it, can you control whether your PC participates in distributing torrents? Some ISPs frown on torrents. (IP owners, too. )
    Good point. Additionally, I think you really don't want to find yourself in the same position as Jammie Thomas-Rasset.
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    As well, one should apply a little deconstruction (some standard checks) before buying from any unknown website.
    For http://www.satellitepctvsoftware.com :

    • Clicking through to the 'Contact Us' page, we see that the only way to contact the vendor is via a webform. No street address, not even an e-mail address. Immensely dodgy already.
    • No Support or Download (except for payment) link at the site, meaning the software is unlikely to be updated or bugfixed.
    • Googling up the website with the word "scam", a little hunting leads us to http://www.webutation.net/en/review/...tvsoftware.com .
      Hovering over the red 'Web Of Trust' icon there, we see that the vendor is rated 'Very Poor' for Reliability and Privacy.
    • Entering the website into http://web.archive.org , we see there are no archived pages, so the site hasn't been around for long. (which is no doubt why there aren't heaps of mentions about what a scam it is).
    • A whois (http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp) shows the site is newly registered to some guy in Romania who's admin of a porn website (no joke!). NB Many of these sort of scam sites change domain every few months to try and avoid blacklists.
    • The 'SECURITY SCANNED' and 'BUSINESS VERIFIED' logos near the bottom of the page supposedly from 'Webguard' [sic, not even capitalised correctly] are just pictures, not links to pages specifically for this vendor at a genuine security validation site. (I have by the way seen a similar scam site for a similar product where there were many similar 'trust' logo pics supposedly for multiple security sites, but all just copied from other websites.)


    Caveat emptor!!

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    In using a PC as a Personal Video Recorder, under Windows 7 Home Premium, you really do not need additional software. But the PVR software offered by many different vendors can make recording and playback of TV content easier, and in some cases, paid cable channels can be added. Generally, all that is needed is a good directional antenna for over-the-air broadcasts, and setting up the computer to receive and record the signals (hence the software investment).

    This particular site does not impress me as being any better than commercially available boxed software and hardware packages, among them Dazzle or Hauppage, so I would look into these more established sources before getting involved with an unfamiliar web offering. I don't see anything here which looks like infringement or piracy, if that is a concern, but the site must be paying for its content somehow. I would be concerned that this site, like many streaming video web sites, will require installation of spyware and adware into the user's computer. Definitely do not install any plug-ins, or software or codecs from unfamiliar sites! I just finished cleaning up my Windows 7 laptop from an incident involving what claimed to be a DivX codec download - it was really spyware. And (if you read closely) this site does not claim to have access to any actual Cable or Satellite Channels.

    And no, Miro is not linked to Torrents by default. You have to join the Torrents voluntarily to get into trouble with this free package. It is as legitimate as Video LAN's VLC Player, and is very well established as a video player under Linux. Most content used by Miro is downloaded as files rather than streamed or received over the air or via Cable.

    For streaming programs which I want to watch outside of their normal air times, I find Hulu.com and (for Comcast Cable subscribers) Fancast to be perfectly adequate for the most popular shows. No software or antenna needed -- just a good broadband Internet Connection.

    I still prefer using DTV Converter Boxes and VCRs because they are analog and never get blacked out by "the Broadcast Flag" (which can prevent recording onto digital media). In analog, thanks to the famous Betamax Case, if you can see it, you can record it and play it back (and copy it) without restrictions. Not so in Digital (especially when using HDMI with HDCP connectors), due to the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act).

    One more thing -- watching TV from a laptop or desktop computer is not a relaxing experience, even if you connect to an external monitor or HDTV. If you really want to enjoy just sitting back and watching your shows, a real TV, a real "comfy chair" a Home Theater with Surround Sound, and a good Remote Control with VCR, DVR, or On Demand Channel is the only way to go. (Insert beer commercial here.)

    Streaming content over the Internet (as opposed to downloading or accepting Torrent Feeds) is glitchy and has dropouts and hesitations even over the best fiber-optic broadband Internet Connections. In my opinion, it simply is not worth the hassle, inconvenience and discomfort just to save a few dollars a month on subscriptions.
    -- Bob Primak --

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