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    Weird bookmark behavior in Word

    UNRESOLVED WEIRD PROBLEM in WORD: BOOKMARKS

    1) I don't use/insert any text or location bookmarks.
    2) I never use combination keystroke shortcuts.
    3) I've recently done alignment work on the vertical and horizontal layouts of neighboring text blocks and non-text-block text, in which I got the horizontal and vertical alignments I needed by inserting both leading spaces and changing their font sizes numbers, and by changing above-and-below line spacing points, to get the alignment/layout accuracy I wanted.

    Shortly after I started the task, non-printing gray I-beams began to appear randomly but inconsistently, where I had tweaked both non-text-block text and the line spacing of text in a text box, and immediately left of the first character in a line.

    They persist even when the paragraph mark is turned off. Diligent digging on my part found that I was seeing location bookmarks. I didn't create them, they are unnamed, and the bookmarking tool does not display them, allow me to name them, or enable me to remove them or prevent their display.

    It's as if something lurking in the background is seeing my tweaking font space sizes and line spacings, and presuming (without asking me) that I'm creating location bookmarks.

    It's even more exotic: after I had run some prints of the single page on which I did the tweaking, very faint thin light gray versions of the non-existing I-beam location bookmarks began to appear in the printed copies. That's a very real no-no: bookmarks are not supposed to print.

    Explanations and fixes, please!
    I'm running Vista, which is kept up to date. My Microsoft suite programs are scrupulously updated, protected by Microsoft Security Essentials, and supervised by Secunia's PSI. I don't go to strange places on the web or open email from sources I don't recognize. I'll be happy to send you the document on which I did the work described above.

    Thanks!
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    I've never seen anything like that, but using spaces to pad out text is something I assiduously avoid. That's what tabs and indents and space before/after are for.

    In past threads, I've heard of hidden bookmarks, named with a leading underscore character. It might be possible to flush these with a macro, but I haven't searched for one.

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    Hi LateHolm,

    You don't have 'track changes' switched on do you? That will place change-tracking marks in the margins - even for formatting changes.
    Cheers,

    Paul Edstein
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    Yup, fiddling with space and character widths is a PITA -- I just don't remember how to reset the ruler to allow it to slide smoothly without stepping. And perhaps I'd do better by figuring how to lay out multiple text boxes on a page before starting to type . . .
    I'm always astonished, each of the maybe 2-3 times in a year that I try using Word's 'Help' screens, by how c-l-u-n-k-y they are. MS could learn a lot by figuring how to apply Google's search skills to the selection of help screens for users.

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    No. I wasn't using change tracking on the two mis-behaving single page documents that are bugging me. But I was working in .doc mode, instead of the (for me) unnecessary .docx mode.
    But you've given me the thought that I should save the created document as a .docx and then change it back to a .doc, to see if that will lose the visible but non-existing-unnamed location bookmarks that I never created or turned on . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LateHolm View Post
    Yup, fiddling with space and character widths is a PITA -- I just don't remember how to reset the ruler to allow it to slide smoothly without stepping.
    I hold the Alt key.

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    If the bookmarks indicators are appearing in your printouts then they aren't bookmarks. Bookmarks are very common in documents with cross-references and tables of contents but they can also appear unbidden when you copy and paste content from other documents.

    To view all bookmarks including the hidden ones you need to go to Insert>Bookmark and tick the Hidden bookmarks check box. You can delete individual bookmarks in that dialog but if you want to kill them all in one go then a macro is easier.
    Code:
    Sub RemoveAllBookmarks()
      Dim aBkMk As Bookmark
      For Each aBkMk In ActiveDocument.Bookmarks
        aBkMk.Delete
      Next aBkMk
    End Sub
    Andrew Lockton, Chrysalis Design, Melbourne Australia

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    Any chance they are non-width non-break characters?

    They can't be bookmark indicators. Any chance you could upload one of these document?
    Last edited by TerFar; 2011-02-27 at 09:03.

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    Question Avoid the problem by using tables to align text?

    From your initial description of the problem, it sounds like you haven't tried to align your text by embedding it in tables with invisible (or 0-width) lines.

    That might avoid your problem, and simplify your edit process.

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    Weird bookmark behavior in Word

    Quote Originally Posted by AGetzler View Post
    From your initial description of the problem, it sounds like you haven't tried to align your text by embedding it in tables with invisible (or 0-width) lines.

    That might avoid your problem, and simplify your edit process.
    AHH! If you intended to type 'sounds like you HAVE tried to align ...' then we may be getting close to finding the fix. I'll upload a sample doc later today. In the meantime, I'll try to read about zero width lines and characters. If finding good sources is iffy, I'd appreciate direction to a good source. Thanks! Still

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