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    Office 2000 patches

    Don't expect to get much sympathy round here, but will try.

    Just had to do a complete windows reinstall of my venerable, but still highly functional system. I'd set my office 2000 install up as a single administrator installation point on a different HD, but had got lazy keeping it up to date with later patches (but was patched to SP3).

    Now got the problem that although the Microsoft Update FAQ says you should use Office Update for per user installations or Office 2000 (so that's me on both counts), Office Update no longer exists.

    I despise Office 2007 onwards, and yes, I have worked with it enough to give it a chance, and am quite happy to stick with O2K, but obviously want it to be secure.

    Secunia PSI isn't helpful - its one, major, weak point is to be in thrall to the unnecessary built in obselence so despicably rife in the software industry, and marking half of my computer as "end of life".

    I haven't tried an old version of Offline Update, as I had a very nasty experience with that trashing an installation once, so have been wary ever since, although that might be an option.

    Anyone have any suggestions where I can get a list of the post SP3 security patches, so at least I can download them manually and apply them to my admin install point (have a nasty feeling they'll be rather a lot).

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    Mark, hello.
    No sympathy indeed from me, admiration ! I am also deserving of this, I have O2K running on all my machines, 3 are W-7 and two are XP Pro and it does fine. I have not had an update to O2K for a long spell and it does not need any. You mentioned SP-3 so you are on XP too. What problem are you having with O2K to want some update ? I have no problem here at all. At one time, I could not get the Help for Access to run, I re-installed the whole CD and that fixed it or if I remember well, it showed that I had it all installed, would I want to repair it and I believe that this is what I chose. Have at it. Jean.

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    I meant Office 2000 SP3, and there are definitely some critical post SP3 security updates - see here for starters - http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...letins/6183643 But I can't see any way to access a list of post SP3 updates, or where to download them.

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    If you start on the Security Bulletin site: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx

    Then choose Office 2000 / SP3 and search.

    You get six updates. These are security updates, not functionality, so there could be other compatible goodies, but it's a start.

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    Mark,

    I have what I think is a complete set of update files from SP3 on. Some of these I have marked as 'Not required' (don't remember why!), but here's the lists in case it may be of use:

    Installed:
    KB822035, kb826292, kb873380, kb889167, kb905553, kb905555, kb905757, kb914797, kb916520, kb917152, kb917345, kb918424, kb920822, kb920906, kb920910, KB921595, KB921606, kb923090, kb923093, kb923274, kb925524, kb929062, kb929139, KB931660, kb934392, kb934526, kb936511, kb940596, KB944425, KB947361, KB949007, KB950250, KB951582, KB955441, KB955461, KB956328, KB959964

    Not required:
    kb824936, kb824993, kb830347, kb830349, kb835220, kb873372, kb887977, kb887977, kb895333, kb895333

    I'd offer to send them all, but they run to 93MB, and that would take hours and use up most of my monthly quota, but if you have difficult finding any, I could perhaps send them to you.

    Hope that helps

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    Thanks very much for those, most helpful.

    Unfortunately, the water isn't clearing.

    I'd been very pleased to come across the link you gave, jscher, which revealed 20 bulletins for Office 2000 SP3. For the first time I felt I was getting somewhere, after much frustration with the MS website (eg Microsoft Update FAQ says that you need to use Office UPdate if you have an administrative installation OR office 2000 - I have both - but of course office update no longer exists; the potential offered by the inventory tool, only to find that although the link for invcm is live, that for invcf, the definitions file, is dead). Unfortunately, there are a number of updates (eg those detailed in the tech rep article I referred to - tho it is from 2007), which don't appear among those 20. Also, prior to coming across the technet link, I'd been trying to compile my own list from chasing down lists in deployment bulletins that seemed to refer to O2k SP3, and then following the "what others are downloading" links to other security updates, and come across a whole load of others, which seemed to apply.

    The difficulty, of course, is knowing which updates have been superceded by others, although none of the updates I've found are from bulletins listed as being superceded in any of the 20 bulletins from the technet search.

    Thanks very much for the useful list, Chris. Interestingly, your list includes only 14 of the 21 updates linked from the above 20 bulletins, and 3 of those 14 are in the "not required" list. Your list also details 11 of the 16 security updates I'd chased down by following links (and none of those were in your not required section). Your list also includes 22 updates (7 of which were under not required) which I hadn't found yet!!

    I also tried Offline Update (version 6.2, which was the last to include office 2000), but it only found 2 post SP3 updates to install.

    I did start going through all the deployment updates such as , to follow the bulletin links, but there are just too many to cope with, so that's a non-starter (and, I guess, should really have shown up in the technet search).

    It's enough to make one download Open Office, except I have some Access databases, and have never found a non-office app which can deal with them, and this computer's going to be for my dad, who doesn't deal with change well, and is used to office (and office 2k at that).

    For what it's worth, here's a list of the updates I've found that aren't in any of the above lists: 921568, 934447, 942669, 943990, 958435.

    Chris, these are the securtiy updates from the technet bulletins not in your list: 892842, 905646, 946986, 957790, 957838, 969600, 969683.

    A final caveat - I can't recall whether everything I've found is rated "critical" for Office 2000 SP3, which may reflect some of the discrepancies.

    This is exhausting, so thanks for all your help.

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    Ah, I suspect that one reason you have located several that are not on my list is due to different installations. For example, 892842 is for Outlook which I have never used or installed.

    Not that that helps you much!

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    Yes Chris, that would make sense, thanks.

    So, this is the list I've compiled:

    822035, 824936, 824993, 826292, 827431, 830347, 830349, 873372, 873380, 887977, 889167, 892842, 895333, 905553, 905555, 905646, 905757, 914797, 916520, 917152, 917345, 918424, 920822, 920906, 920910, 921568, 921593, 921595, 921606, 923090, 923093, 923274, 925524, 929062, 929139, 931660, 934392, 934447, 934526, 936511, 940596, 942669, 943990, 944425, 946979, 946986, 947361, 949007, 950250, 951582, 955441, 955461, 956328, 957790, 957838, 958435, 959964, 969600, 969683

    This is amalgamated from the technet search page on current bulletins pertinent to Office 2000 limited to Service Pack 3, searching the MS download centre for "update 2000" limited to Office products and selecting all updates dated after the release of Office 2000 SP3, and following any links to security updates from the "what others are downloading" lists at the bottom of the download pages for any updates identified above, whilst discarding any that didn't list SP3 as a pre-requisite.

    I have not included updates for Project or Publisher, but the above list does include some updates that might not be necessary, such as those for Access Snapshot viewer, or Word Perfect converters.

    The list also is mostly security updates, and not, for instance, DST update packs or additional functionality downloads.

    For the earlier updates (mostly those beginning with 8), I did check the bulletin pages to make sure there was no note they'd been superceded.

    There would appear to be many more updates if one were to go down the route of checking each Detection and Deployment bulletin for patch day releases, but my life is too short (and several hours shorter than it would have been if office update still worked ).

    Thanks for all your suggestions

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    I have the executable for Office 2000 SP3. I believe it requires SP1 to be installed first. If I am legally allowed to I would be glad to send it to you. Does anybody know the legality of that?
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    I can't help with the updates (the above seems comprehensive - I had frozen my Office 2000 installation after SP3 at KB822035, apart from anything later that MS pushed out via Windows updates), but would like to ask a question: Is this 'admin' install something that I (with a standard retail install'n CD) could set up, to save having to install the updates every time I re-install Office? (not that this is required very often!).

    I also am resisting switching to Office 2010, although I have it cheaply via the Home Use program. The concept of ribbons full of buttons i will likely never use is at odds with my preference for a minimal, single line customised toolbar in O2k, which has just the buttons I do use regularly. I have tried 2010, but see no need to jump ship yet. The rest of my family would need 'educating', and I can't see the advantage.

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    Yes, it's easy to create admin installation point. Rather than provide links which will go out of date, just google administrative installation point office whichever version you're interested in, and you'll find a host of resources.

    The advantage of doing this even for a single machine is that, if you keep the admin point up to date and on a separate partition, reinstallation to the latest, patched version is a breeze. The disadvantage, and the reason that I slipped in my updating, is that you need to download each required patch manually (usually after running office update to find the patches you need, then following the more information links to the relevant bulletins). You need to download the fullfile version. Then you have to extract the patch contents, apply the patch contents to your admin install point (using "msiexec /a Admin Path\MSI File /p Update Path\MSP File SHORTFILENAMES=1" where admin path is the path to your administrative installation, and update path is the folder where you have extracted the patch contents to, this procedure is usually documented in the relevant bulletin for the patch, by the way), and then update your office installation with "msiexec /i Admin Path\MSI File REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=vomus". I never found a way to automate this for multiple patches. Running office update just became so much simpler - until MS pull support from your favourite version.

    Interestingly, my bright but predigital dad finds the office 2007 I ended up installing (when I discovered that the copy he'd bought with his laptop allowed installation on 3 machines) much easier and more intuitive than office 2000!

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    Thanks for the offer Bill, but I ended up installing office 2007 as my dad had a licence spare and I baulked at the thought of installing all those patches manually. It was all the post-SP3 patches that were bugging me - SP3 and SR1-a are still available, and take care of everything up to that point (I hope!!).

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    The best method I have found for updating or re-installing Office 2000 and getting all the service packs and updates is Shavlik Techologies NetChk Protect: http://blog.shavlik.com/2010/10/07/s...now-available/ . It is trial ware but is not restricted for 45 days and you won't need it longer than that. It can be a bit fussy to install and it needs SQL Server 2008 as a pre-requisite, but it works well. There was a service pack update for SQL that it wouldn't install for some reason, but a visit to Windows Update took care of that. This is the only reliable source for digitally signed update files that I have found.
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