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    Thumbs down Windows 7 Problems

    I'm glad to see that everyone else is having problems with Win7... I just upgraded my computer in January 2011 and was so frustrated with Win7, that I told the builder to rip it out and put in XP Pro.... I did keep Office 2010....
    WHAT????? are these people at Microsoft thinking??? they seem to have forgotten that a computer is supposed to be a user-friendly aid, not some rocket science catalog system... I think they've all been exposed to the SAP system [and actually welcome and understand it].....

    I'm still licensed and have the product code for Win7 if there is ever is a need for it, but I hope it never comes....

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    I don't have any problems with W7, used it on many machines for over 2 years now.

    ... upgraded < does this mean it wasn't a clean install? If so, that's most likely your problem.

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    I found that the learning curve for Win 7 was relatively minor (less than a week) for the increases in security it provides. Once past the learning curve I was able to customize to my hearts content. Most people want to have major differences from one OS to the next. The OS'es that did not were something of a bomb (remember Win ME and Vista) I also find that Win 7 is extremely user friendly if you take a few moments to check out some of the tip and trick sites mentioned throughout these forums.

    I have said it before and will will "They will have to pry Win 7 out of my cold, dead hands" until Win 8 is released that is. I would NEVER consider going back to Win XP. Networking is so much easier with Win 7, sharing online is so much easier, just everything works better and is more secure.

    That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth. . . . . exactly 2 cents!

    p.s. I have also upgraded (with a clean install) 5 seperate PC's and all work marvelously. 2 laptops are 64 Bit, 1 Win 7 HP and 1 Win 7 Ultimate, and 1 desktop, 32 Bit Win 7 HP in our home, and 2 Laptops, 1 32 Bit and 1 64 Bit both with Win 7 HP for our daughters. No problems at all, and no one wants to go back to XP, go figure.
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    The computer was 100% new custom build [Intel Dual Core i5-661, 3.33GHZ; Intel DH55TC Motherboard, Kingston KVR 1333D 4gb RAM, WD Caviar Black 1tb HD, etc.... I don't do anything fancy with Windows, but after going through all the previous editions of Windows, I wasn't prepared to 're-learn' a computer's operating system..... 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'

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    Do you have a specific question about using Windows 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun62234 View Post
    'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
    Yes, but ... it is broken. As others have said security is a mess. And the end of maintenance must be nearly upon us.

    Do try Win 7 a bit further. It has a lot going for it.

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    I have to agree with Ted, I have also upgraded (clean) 5 computers to W7, most 64bit Pro with XP Mode, and yes, networking is easier, sharing too. Customization is a breeze. I read a few articles, en e-book and looked around in this forum, and the learning curve was maybe a week, then little discoveries over the next month or so. Read up on it, and try again, Security, Network, Sharing, EVERYTHIHG seems much easier to me in 7 than XP. I can see the "if it ain't broke..." argument, but really, a 10 year old OS? Give it another try!

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    Yes and no...

    I like Windows 7 fine. I also like XP fine. I still dual-boot XP and Windows 7 Ultimate on my laptop.

    I must also say that in all the years I used XP on several home-built machines, the only true BSOD's I ever had were because of hardware failures (I take full credit for those I caused myself; they weren't XP's fault, but I always had a fresh drive image at the ready whenever I started tinkering). Of course, I must also say that I never bought a pre-installed XP other than my laptop, and my installations of XP were a bit modified. I did all my tweaking by hand, not by using any third party "tweaking" software.

    I never had any networking issues, even with Win2K Pro, Windows 98 SE and XP all happily networked together.

    I never did a reformat/reinstall on any of my machines (although I did do a couple of repair/reinstalls with SATA drivers slipstreamed in when I upgraded to SATA drives). My major hardware upgrades were always done with drive images, not clean installs.

    To me, XP still isn't broke, Windows 7 is no more or less stable than my XP's were (and one still is).
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    Create a fresh drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!

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    The end of support for XP SP#3 ONLY! Ends 04/08/2014.So for the few that want to procrastinate you have till then.
    You can read more on the life span here;http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ucts/lifecycle
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    Hi,

    Windows 7 is not so poor that you just get frustrated, it has much to do with the latest technology and performance. You need to first install in the dual boot mode and first try it out use for some short of period and get familiar with the features it has and then give the respond to it how you feel after it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun62234 View Post
    The computer was 100% new custom build [Intel Dual Core i5-661, 3.33GHZ; Intel DH55TC Motherboard, Kingston KVR 1333D 4gb RAM, WD Caviar Black 1tb HD, etc.... I don't do anything fancy with Windows, but after going through all the previous editions of Windows, I wasn't prepared to 're-learn' a computer's operating system..... 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'
    Like a car where you may buy a new one and have to learn how it operates, the same Holds true fro win 7. After all it has been 10+ years since XP's debut and there are bound to be some new things in it. I have both XP (sp-3) and win 7 and its just a matter of getting familiar with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun62234 View Post
    I'm glad to see that everyone else is having problems with Win7...
    This just ain't so, sorry. As with all things the majority of people that post to forums have problems they are posting about. If you look through our forum for example you might see dozens, perhaps hundreds of posts asking questions about Windows 7. Many of these are questions on how to customize, or tweak the UI. Many more are asking ways of changing one or another aspect of Win 7. And yes there are those who are having problems. Look at the numbers though, there is no indication that "everyone" is having a problem with Win 7. Think of the quote "a squeaky wheel gets oiled" those having problems post, the vast majority not having problems do not post they are not having problems. This just isn't done. Joe Perez posted in a thread previously that in fact less than .1 % (that's 1/10 %) are having problems with Win 7 (Joe I apologize if the number is not correct, my mind does not always remember exactly right) When you think of ANY major update to a major piece of software, this failure rate is phenominally small.

    In addition, MS has by design made the OS so that it will work well for the masses, but it is impossible to test with all combinations of hardware and software that the masses are using.

    Anyway, enough of this particular rant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun62234 View Post
    they seem to have forgotten that a computer is supposed to be a user-friendly aid, not some rocket science catalog system...
    I heartily agree. I Found Win7 to be very user friendly the first time I used it when it was still in beta. And I have used it ever since because for the most it is fairly intuitive and lets me organize things the way I want. Every time I am forced to go back and do something in XP I find that there are numerous things that I miss. A couple of examples: no libraries in XP makes me have to hunt down related files from multiple locations. Every time I want to unplug a USB drive XP I have to first open Explorer to equate the drive to the drive letter because XP shows only the letter (Win7 tell me the drive label and the type of drive). And there there are the numerous task bar enhancements that I use all the time in Win7 (with jump lists being at the top of the list). And I could go on and on.

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    My diagnosis is that you have a learning problem, which is not to be confused with a learning disability: Did you come home from a bookstore with a wheelbarrow filled with big fat books, try tutorials, go to classes, or online, or did you expect that intuition was all you would need?


    We all learn differently and we tap different sources, including The Lounge. I have the usual big fat book (Windows 7 Inside Out, by Ed Bott) which has the added advantage of a CD with a PDF copy on it so you can put it on the computer and refer to it at any time, I have a small but interesting book called Windows 7 Tips & Techniques, by Stuart Yarnold, but my favourite source is Lynda.com, which is a paid online source of tutorials.


    I do not have a vested interest in any of those sources, and there are many others, but if you are having the kind of trouble you describe I suggest that you check Lynda.com. They have a few things you can view as samples, and if you try it for a month you can learn Office while you’re there. It can be time- (and moderate bandwidth)-consuming, so you might check your service provider’s contract to be sure you won’t get a nasty surprise on that bill.

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    My favorite tip and trick sites are as follows:

    How To Geek

    Paul Thurrott's Windows Supersite

    Windows Seven Forums Tutorials

    There are many other sites, but these are my favorites. I agree that learning Win 7 does require moderate effort, but I believe it is effort well spent.
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