Any rumors of Windows Mail-like client for Windows 8?

[best1syn2oil]

I too loved Outlook Express...but now use eM Client and have come to love it! Of course, I use it for business purposes mainly and having multiple accounts was required to get the paid version...but it's quite affordable. As a stand alone email client it rocks!

[bobprimak]

That seems most unlikely when I can use Windows Live Mail offline, whilst disconnected from the internet, for all functions including full use of the ribbon.

Bruce

I think the offline version syncs with a Cloud version. Live Mail does have a dual personality of sorts, as you say. It exists both as a full-featured desktop client and as a Cloud-based App. But when used in the Cloud (as many folks do) we do not have an option to get rid of the WLM Ribbon. Maybe not even on the desktop.

IMAP does sync with the actual Web Mail Account in the Cloud, even though the client is on the local machine. If you delete a message in an IMAP client and then decide you want it back, it is gone from the server in most cases. At least by default. There, the Ribbon may not be in the Cloud, but getting rid of the Ribbon might very well interfere with IMAP functionality. IMAP still works when not connected to the Internet, but upon reconnecting, it will sync with the Cloud Account whenever the opportunity arises, silently in many cases. Very disconcerting if you are not aware of this behavior. This is not how POP operates by default.

And by the way, in answer to another post, you CAN copyright and patent ideas. That's what these tech companies are always suing each other about, and the picture is incredibly muddy in terms of how closely one program may resemble or emulate features of another product.

In answer to yet another post, Thunderbird has a history completely independent of Outlook, and it bears little resemblance to OE. Users who want the look and feel of using OE are very unlikely to be happy with Thunderbird. Recent T-Bird versions aren't even using separate Folders by default, preferring to use a more Google GMail-like Conversations View by default. (And Google has reportedly considered suing the Mozilla/Thunderbird developers about this.) I am still happy with the Eudora OSE interface which is Thunderbird under the hood, but this is not like the paid Eudora and its classic Mailboxes.

[BruceR]

I think the offline version syncs with a Cloud version. Live Mail does have a dual personality of sorts, as you say. It exists both as a full-featured desktop client and as a Cloud-based App. But when used in the Cloud (as many folks do) we do not have an option to get rid of the WLM Ribbon. Maybe not even on the desktop.

Windows Live Mail is a downloadable desktop email client application.

Windows Live Hotmail is a web-based email service with no ribbon.

How do I access the cloud-based application which has a ribbon?

Bruce

[bubtub]

Outlook 2007 almost eraced my inbox

[ncwoodbe]

Not sure what one would find missing with Thunderbird. I have multiple email address' set up , each with it's own in box. Then with filters, I can have messages automatically placed in specific folders, even across in-boxes. So I have such folders as windows Secrets, Family, CNet, Finance, even "politics" etc and based on what I am concentrating on I can go to the folder of the moment. The only issue I have with email clients is how much band width it takes to down load all my messages each time I open the client. The issue I had with Outlook and lout look express, when I tried to use them, was every thing went to the same inbox. Perhaps I didn't take enough time to set it up. With Thunderbird, I can also choose which email address I want ot use for each out going mail regardless of which in box it came to. just my 2 cents ds

[grits]

[QUOTE=kelliann1;842160]UGH! Why did MS have to make something that was SO simple into this monstrosity -- the average person can't even tell what's going on! OTOH I heard that that's what "they" want. They are moving toward taking total control over our computing so that we can't function without asking them for help - nothing we can do on our own anymore. We're to store our stuff on their servers, access them in the way Microsoft wants, and sooner or later bet they'l make us PAY to access our own stuff (beyond just paying for the operating system and programs).

UGH! is right!! And what about us less than average? I have been signed in here for two hours reading about email on Win7 & have gotten sooo lost due to so much about web based email in WLM. I don't care for nor want to sign up for 'Hotmail', 'gmail', etc. because, as I 'think' you said, I already have web through my ISP which I'm using now 'cuz I can't decide on a client. I'd really like to try Windows Mail as per seven forum but not sure I'm smart enough to actually get it done.
Shoot, now I've rambled on here so much that I'm not sure I've actually made a point or asked a question.

[catilley1092]

This is just my two cents on the issue, please don't take my point of view as being anything else.

What is wrong with simply accessing email through the browser? Works perfectly fine for me & I have 6 email accounts. All of these other options, Windows Live Mail, Outlook Express & Thunderbird is a PITA to setup. Plus, all of them doesn't allow for at least one of my email accounts mail to come through.

I have them bookmarked into a folder "eMail accounts", & go to them when I wish to. Have been doing it that way for years. Why does email have to be so complicated?

BTW, there appears to be some sort of email built into Windows 8 CP, because when I sign in, using my Windows Live password, unread messages shows. But when one wants to check their email, the user must re-enter their password. There is the option to import email accounts, but once again, not all of them. I just checked.

Cat

[kelliann1]

Hi Cat -
Webmail is a real PITA for me! I have 10 email accounts (one is an apple me.com imap account and the rest are pop3).

It doesn't have the functions I want, it's slow even on the fasted possible cable connection (always waiting for someone's server, it seems), etc.

I suppose if you do 25 emails a day maybe webmail would be good enough, but I get over 100 a day and I don't have time to mess with mail on a browser, even when the browser is Chrome (and forget IE - that's like trying to speed behind an elephant).

[BruceR]

I suppose if you do 25 emails a day maybe webmail would be good enough, but I get over 100 a day and I don't have time to mess with mail on a browser, even when the browser is Chrome (and forget IE - that's like trying to speed behind an elephant).

:
Internet Explorer should be faster than Chrome:

Internet Explorer 9, the fastest way to browse the web

How much faster is IE10

Bruce

[catilley1092]

Hi Cat -
Webmail is a real PITA for me! I have 10 email accounts (one is an apple me.com imap account and the rest are pop3).

It doesn't have the functions I want, it's slow even on the fasted possible cable connection (always waiting for someone's server, it seems), etc.

I suppose if you do 25 emails a day maybe webmail would be good enough, but I get over 100 a day and I don't have time to mess with mail on a browser, even when the browser is Chrome (and forget IE - that's like trying to speed behind an elephant).

"25 a day?" I probably get over 100 on any given day, but still use the browser to access them. A Mail client is just another program to look out after, as well as a possible security breach.

Not to mention that any one of the well known email programs won't access all of my email accounts (7 brands, 13 accounts). I've added a few since my last posting. If one program can't access all, then I don't need it.

Cat

[Drew1903]

IT Pros have not had a good attitude towards OE. Preferred is MS Office OUTLOOK; if, no access to that then, Windows Live Mail, next preference.

[jwitalka]

Drew, you're right about a lot of pros but I find the majority of "normal" users much prefer Outlook Express and rue its demise after Windows XP.

Jerry

[Drew1903]

I've not noticed that but, we usually just tell clients, "Don't sweat it, OE was a piece of junk" & help them accept using better things going forward.

Cheers,
Drew

[jwitalka]

I find that a bit presumptuous. Outlook Express did have some issues but it worked perfectly fine for many users and was a nice simple mail client. many users prefer it to the ribbon based Windows Live Mail. I let my clients make their own decision on which email program they wish to use.

Jerry

[Drew1903]

Except, only those, still, w/ XP can savour the joy of OE. It & its limitations & vulnerabilities were dropped after that.