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    Ditto on the 'trust' responses

    If you have a child who is sufficiently motivated to find ways around your security settings, they will find ways around your security settings.
    Talk to your kids, figure out what they're doing, and help them understand how to be smart on-line. Teach them some life skills other than 'NO'.

    On the technical side, nobody has yet mentioned using bootable linux disks; great way to bypass pretty much anything you set up.

    It is possible to lock PCs down and have total control over who gets to do what. Our work PCs are pretty close to military grade secure. Unfortunately (or fortunately) this level of security requires third party tools that are non-trivial to set up and maintain AND they require some level of active monitoring so you can see when/where breech attempts occur. They include controls that begin at the bios and go out to the web interface. Unless you are running a mil-grade network, you're probably not going here.

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    I agree with the 'they will find a way around', but a router-level filter (such as http://opendns.org has nothing to do with the PC, so a linux boot disk still has to get out to the internet, and opendns will block it then.
    They could use some other network, but if they are going to that length you've got bigger troubles.
    I still think opendns (or similar) should be set up on just about everyone's router. It (probably) faster than your ISP's DNS, it provides phishing protection, and you get to choose how much (or how little) filtering gets done. And it's free.
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    Open DNS is an excellent service and well worth installing for its many benefits. However, to assume that it will protect your children is perhaps not seeing the bigger picture.

    Open DNS can be turned off. I'm not going how to post how to do it here, but a very simple trick can remove Open DNS from a password protected router in less than 30 seconds.

    There are ways to work-around it too; many that do not disturb Open DNS settings and yet still allow access to the internet.

    Just to be 100% clear, I'm not saying don't install Open DNS - it's well worthwhile, but if you do, please don't assume that's the end of the story.

    If the child is motivated, they will find a way.
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    Double Ditto on the trust issues!
    The greatest motivator is the word "NO" & the computer equivalent is somebody else controlling what you can do!
    Both encourage the opposite of the desired behaviour How would YOU react to being spied on & not trusted?
    Yes kids need boundaries & yes they will push those boundaries, didn't we all?!?! But a child who is intelligent enough to defeat what you have set up is certainly intelligent enough to participate in a discussion of the issues involved.

    If you consider it necessary to exercise control without the restriction of someone physically being around, make sure your child understands WHY then get creative with the HOW. e.g. If it's a 'time online' issue use a kitchen timer or loud alarm clock but don't put it anywhere near the computer. A loud alarm going off in the bathroom alerts the whole household that someone's computer time is up.
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    If you are using the XP Home operating system, the clue to what is going on is that she appears to be accessing the computer in Safe Mode. When XP is installed it creates a default Administrator account that cannot be deleted. The password for this default account is blank and can only be accessed in Safe Mode so as to assist if you ever need to run Recovery Console. So, she is probably accessing the computer through the default Administrator account in Safe Mode since there is no password. As others in this thread mentioned, you could put a password on that default Administrator account, but in XP Home that password can be defeated if you search for the instructions on the internet. XP Home is not a secure operating system, so if you seriously want to control the use of the computer, you will have to replace XP Home with XP Professional - or get Windows 7 if your computer meets the system requirements (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w.../products/home). I also agree with some of the other replies that suggest having a discussion with her about this situation. The fact that she is making such an effort to bypass your oversight is somewhat disturbing.

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    For anyone having difficulty remembering passwords, the longer ones being more secure but harder to recall, then do a keyboard combination, not obvious ones like qwerty or asdfgh or 123456 etc, but combinations that describe a shape or figure on the keyboard.

    No-one can guess them or computer hacker programs crack them, try to include numbers and "shifted" keys as well and or characters like full stops too.

    The more the merrier.

    Be artistic with your passwords !

    Hope this helps.

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    If using a router you coulks always block access to certain programs or ports and /or else you could also set predetermined times where the PC can be used. Lot of work but a solution

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