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    When dial-up is the only way online


    When dial-up is the only way online

    By Fred Langa

    It's easy to think that "dial-up is dead" until you travel or move to one of the many locales where broadband remains just a vague rumor.

    But dial-up can still work fine, even with Windows 7. Here's how to make your connection.

    The full text of this column is posted at (paid content, opens in a new window/tab).

    Columnists typically cannot reply to comments here, but do incorporate the best tips into future columns.
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    Ever since my DOS days, I have deleted all partitions prior to doing an OS re/install. Creating a new partition and formatting can take time, but it results in a clean install. Down side is having to reinstall the applications.

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    Java JRE in New Version (JRE 7)

    Java issues are nowhere near as simple as this article implies. You at present cannot just download the current Java JRE or Java SE runtimes and expect all of your software to work properly (or at all in some cases).

    This is because Java has just released Java JRE/Java SE Versions 7. Version 7 of either of these runtimes will break OpenOffice, LibreOffice, and a host of other Java-dependent applications. Since there are at present no known security issues with JRE 6 Update 26, there is no reason to update to JRE 7.

    But getting the Version 6 downloads is not straightforward. Automatic updating of Java JRE will result in JRE 7 being installed. This tends to remove JRE 6, although not on every computer. Downloading directly from will get you JRE 7, although if you dig deeply enough at the site, you can still get the JRE 6 downloads.

    About the only way to be sure of having both JRE 6 and JRE 7 on the same computer is to turn off Java Automatic Updates at the Java Control Panel, then manually download the full installer for JRE 6 and again for JRE 7, and hope JRE 7 does not remove JRE 6 in the process of installing. (If this happens, install JRE 7 first, then install JRE 6 afterwards. Older versions do not remove newer versions when installing.)

    JRE 6 can also be obtained from several third-party download sites, along with even older versions if you have an application which absolutely needs older, insecure versions of Java runtimes. Usually, these older versions come along with the software which needs them, but not always.

    The end result is that you will have two or more Java runtime versions on your computer, some of them not listed in the Windows Control Panel Add/Remove list, due to being integrated into older or poorly written software.

    The paths to every Java trace on the computer (although not the Registry locations) can be revealed in most cases by running Secunia PSI 2 and looking into the expanded listings for all instances of Java titles listed by PSI. It seldom misses anything Java-related.

    As I say, not a pretty picture, but one which is at present necessary to keep some applications running.
    Last edited by bobprimak; 2011-08-13 at 23:57.
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