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    New Beta Microsoft Security Essentials V 4.0.1111

    Microsoft has announced the release of a new version of MSE V4.0.1111 to select beta testers. ZDNet has an article with the details.
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    Nice catch Ted, Thanks!
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    You need to have a Login at http://connect.microsoft.com and signup for the beta.

    BTW, I downloaded it and installed the 64-bit version on my Win7 Ultimate SP1 X64. Nothing apparently new in the UI. The UI may be simplified. It has a somewhat flat (aka Metro) look to the tabs.

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    I also downloaded the x64 version of the beta. Seems to work similarly to V2 (or was it V3??) Appears very similar as Joe mentions. There seems to be less options under Real Time protection.
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    I saw that it was going to be offered a few days ago, but I thought that it was by invitation only. Oh well, not to worry - live and learn.

    I would be cautious however using a beta version of antivirus/anti-malware software on a live (i.e. production if you will) system. I may install a copy on a virtual platform, but I'm going to wait until I've read a few reviews from the industry specialists before jumping in at the deep end on live machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Myers View Post
    There seems to be less options under Real Time protection.
    My version has one option. It's basically 'ON/OFF'.
    I was also surprised at the similarity in look of this beta to the previous version. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps most of the changes are 'under the hood'?

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    I got the invitation and have it running as well. It seems to play nice with Malwarebytes Pro without the recommended file exclusions that the previous version had.

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    A worrying development

    Hmmm.......

    As a rather unscientific test, I installed the 32 bit version in a Virtual Machine running Vista 32 bit Home Premium. Previously this VM was running MSE version 2.

    After installation, update and initial scan, I downloaded and installed a keylogger (a trial version of the Relytec All-in-One, often used for child safety and parental control). I deliberately left the keylogger in least stealthy mode and did not ask it to disable spyware on the machine. MSE V4 did not complain once in real-time and the keylogger continued to run uninterrupted. I ran a full scan which failed to detect the keylogger.

    After this, I uninstalled V4, rebooted and re-installed MSE V2 (the current production release).

    Then, perhaps more worrying, MSE V2 also did not detect the keylogger in real-time nor scanning mode.

    Please tell me this test was flawed in some way, otherwise I think I need to re-evaluate MSE (current and Beta) in light of this.

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    Tinto,

    I suggest that you do further testing, if you can and try other AV apps. How many will detect the keylogger?

    My take has always been that you need more than a single app to get the best protection that you can get. I use a HIPS running alonside MSE. I would never run MSE or any other AV as the single security app. An AV app wasn't originally meant to detect keyloggers and I think MSE just follows on those footsteps.

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    Hi ruirib, that's just what I'm doing right now.

    It's getting late and I don't want any silly-finger trouble mistakes, so I going to look more closely at it in the morning, but it was also not detected by MalwareBytes Pro trial. I wonder if this keylogger, although perfectly functional is on an exclude list somewhere because it is a commercial tool often used for parental control and child safety etc.

    A quick run on Super AntiSpyware and then off to bed...

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    Let us know how it goes.

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    How odd: shows up clean on SuperAntiSpyware too.

    More on this tomorrow I think.

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    I've also got it running in my Win 7 64bit partition.

    I think it Looks the same, same options as I recall and no issues yet.

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    My guess is that a commercial key logger product meant for child protection is probably noted in the data files used by MSE and other tools as a legit program that does not need to be flagged. I assume that you install this from an admin account the way you would other software. However, if this were say a driveby based key logger installed without permission, maybe MSE would be set to find it and deal with it.

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    pbug56, you may like to checkout this thread that I started for a more in depth discussion on the keylogger detection.

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