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    Exclusive: Millions of printers open to devastating hack attack, researcher

    In all cases, the Columbia researchers claim, duping a would-be target into printing a virus-laden document is enough to take control of that person's printer; but in some cases, printers are configured to accept print jobs via the internet, meaning the virus can be installed remotely, without any interaction by the printer's owner.
    Here is the link;http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...esearchers-say
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    Is this the sort of story for which the name Chicken Little was invented?
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    Well, most printers, among the hundreds I'm familiar with, do not permanently store data, but only hold it in RAM and dump it when the printer is turned off. So it's unlikely that a printer is going to become "Infected" and if it did, what would it do?
    Print out nasty messages to you?

    I remember the "Stoned" virus of about 30 years ago. It would blank your computer screen and then put the words on the screen, "You are now STONED!". It deleted NO files or corrupted no data. It was just a dang nuisance!
    The favorite AV program of the day, removed it.

    Ah, another trip down memory lane!

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    According to the report, there are numerous ways this could be used, including using the printers to attack a network. Seems like a serious oversight, to me.

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    At the office, we sent print jobs to a copier over the network. This copier also is used to scan files and email them or save them on a network share. Unlike a personal printer on a USB cable under your desk, there certainly is the potential for mischief with a privileged, networked device.

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    Much ado about nothing. The press loves to spin up fear when there is nothing to fear. Something like this might have been exploited 10 years ago. But today, unless hackers can retrieve data that will result in a monetary benefit to them there is no incentive to follow through. Not to mention that they've got to get in to the corporate network to begin with. Once they are in, do you think they maximize their time by collecting sellable data (SS#s, CC#s, etc) or starting fires with laser printers?
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    Well guys, I seem to remember reading something a while back that the printers used in Hospitals etc have a hard drive in them that stores every document printed...

    Patient data could be retrieved from the hard drive..

    It an especially serious problem in the used printer business where printers are bought and sold on a regular basis because the hard drive could be removed and all the data on it read...

    So, I would think that a printer could be 'hacked' to get that info also...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banyarola View Post
    Well guys, I seem to remember reading something a while back that the printers used in Hospitals etc have a hard drive in them that stores every document printed...
    Probably related to this Hidden danger of copier/printer hard disks

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    Browni, if I remember correctly, I saw it on TV and it was similar to the link you posted.
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    "The facts are rather more mundane than the headlines".....

    Link to Sophos "Naked Security" Blog.

    I won't be keeping a fire extinguisher next to my printer.

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    Well Tinto, like all these types of stories you just don't know who is telling the truth and who to believe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tinto Tech View Post
    "The facts are rather more mundane than the headlines".....

    Link to Sophos "Naked Security" Blog.

    I won't be keeping a fire extinguisher next to my printer.
    Exactly!

    Quote Originally Posted by Banyarola View Post
    Well guys, I seem to remember reading something a while back that the printers used in Hospitals etc have a hard drive in them that stores every document printed...

    Patient data could be retrieved from the hard drive..

    It an especially serious problem in the used printer business where printers are bought and sold on a regular basis because the hard drive could be removed and all the data on it read...

    So, I would think that a printer could be 'hacked' to get that info also...
    Some high end copier/printers have hard drives in them. Any hospital IT dept that has anybody with a bit of knowledge will opt for the encryption card on these devices. When retiring the devices, many organizations treat these the same as old PCs. They either remove the drives and have them shredded, or they have the vendor certify that they will take care of destroying the drive.
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    Well Doc, when I saw the show about them just the opposite of what you say happened.
    None of them were encrypted and they were just disposed of with the printer or whatever device they were in and the info on them was readily accessible just buy plugging the HD into a computer and reading the drive.
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