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    You need to enable seeing hidden files and folders, then you'll see the AppData folder.
    In WinExplorer, Tools > Folder Options > View tab > tick/untick the appropriate choice [I don't use WinExpl so I don't remember the exact detail].

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    Thanks, Mike. I hadn't thought about it being a hidden file. Got that fixed, placed the NNdbase.txt file in there, but it still doesn't open. I suppose there may be something else I haven't done. Eudora has been my emailer since it first came out (I even purchased it), and I've never had any trouble until now.

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    Again, thanks, Mike!! I finally got it all figured out. Addresses are back perfectly!! Everything is working. Thank you so much for your help!

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    I'm using Eudora as my main mailer, yes (and using Thunderbird when unicode is involved, or sometimes graphics). No problems with my addressbook.

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    Problems in Eudora XP to Win7 64 bit transition

    I followed the steps others have taken in previous posts in this thread, i.e. reinstalled my licensed Eudora 7.1.0.9, then copied over my original Eudora folders and files from my backup drive. I *can* get Eudora to run, and have successfully sent and received test messages. However, I get most functionality when I launch the program as an administrator, and even then, various errors pop up; one of them persistently:
    Eudora-linkhistory-error.PNG

    The odd thing is that <LinkHistory.tmp> does exist! I opened it in Notepad and found several URLs.

    The other errors popping up include:
    Eudora-AVG-startup-error.PNG
    (This one may have to do with my AVG antivirus configuration in relation to Eudora.)
    and:
    DEudora.ini-error.PNG
    and variations of:
    Eudora-access-error-x86.PNG

    I've tried installing and uninstalling 4 times now. The first 3 times I placed all Eudora files into the Program Files (x86) folder when prompted during the install process. The last time I selected the option to place some of Eudora's data into a Users Roaming folder. Still getting errors, and now I can't find those files.

    I wonder if one possible cause is that my original files were in the Windows XP Program Files folder, whereas these ones are in the Program Files (x86) folder, so if there are lines in some files that point to an older path that has no (x86) in it, they could be the culprits.

    I love Eudora and would rather not migrate to Thunderbird! Any suggestions much appreciated.

    Eudora configuration report from Help menu:
    ----System Information
    Platform: Windows Vista Service Pack 1 [actually it's Win7 Pro 64 bit!]
    Machine Type: Intel
    System Version: 6.01.7601
    Processor: Pentium Pro, II, III, or 4 Model 5888, Stepping 10
    Physical RAM Installed: 4095 MB
    Eudora: Version 7.1.0.9
    Mode: Paid Mode
    MSHTML Version: 8.00
    WININET Version: 8.00

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    Update: I have eliminated the little AVG error by deleting the AVG .dll file in my Eudora folder.
    Now trying to figure out whether or not to simply delete all the text in the LinkHistory.dat file or to delete that file altogether...will try one, then the other.

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    This sounds interesting to me (I'd never heard of Eudora). I've used Yahoo.com since 1998 as my email. Yahoo makes "improvements" about every 6 months and screws up everything. I also have agmail acct but don't like it much.
    Paulbyr in NC

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    Eudora has been an excellent desktop email client. The first time I tried it was 1996 on a Mac with one of those old, tiny screens. Then purchased and installed a PC version and kept upgrading until the end of new releases.
    At times I have transferred all my email (saved folders, address book) to Thunderbird on PC and on Mac, then back. I hope I can get it to function properly on Windows 7.

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    Apparently the solution is to run Eudora as an Administrator:
    http://objectmix.com/eudora/378043-e...sing-file.html

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    Apparently the solution is to run Eudora as an Administrator:
    http://objectmix.com/eudora/378043-e...sing-file.html
    or better yet, install Eudora in Windows 7 in its own folder, as explained here
    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...itproappcompat

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    Migrating Eudora 7 from Windows XP to Windows 7 Professional (32- & 64-bit versions)

    Here is how I migrated an old installation of Eudora 7 from Windows XP
    to Windows 7 Professional -- to both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.

    Right click on the Eudora 7 installable (Eudora_7.1.0.9.exe), and run
    it as Administrator. Install this fresh copy of Eudora onto your
    Windows 7 system, and direct it to put the data files into
    C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ , not into a custom
    folder. (Substitute your own user name for "YOURNAME" above.)

    Run Eudora once. During the final configuration, "skip directly to
    advanced account setup." (I configured it to pull mail from my own
    account.) During this first run and pulling mail, Eudora will create
    directory C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ (which
    does not yet exist when you start the run).

    No need to set up spam filtering for this run; we will overwrite all
    of it with your earlier old installation of Eudora in a moment. Clean
    out the stray attachment and embedded files that came in during that
    first email pull.

    Now copy your earlier old installation of Eudora into C:\Program
    Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\ (for 32-bit systems) or C:\Program Files
    (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\ (for 64-bit systems) [I will call this folder
    "...\Qualcomm\Eudora\"], right on top of the fresh installation.
    Create directory TEMP\ in ...\Qualcomm\Eudora\.

    Edit shuffle_Eudora7_files_in_Win7.bat (below) and replace "YOURNAME"
    with your user name. Launch the "Command Prompt" program (DOS
    interface), and change directory to ...\Qualcomm\Eudora\ . [DO THE
    NEXT STEP CAREFULLY! I AM NOT SURE IT MOVES OR COPIES WHOLE
    DIRECTORIES CLEANLY; MAY BE A PERMISSIONS PROBLEM. PERHAPS RUN THE
    FIRST .bat COMMANDS ONE-AT-A-TIME.] Run that .bat file. Verify that
    all commands succeeded; if not, do 'em manually. Then read the
    comments at the bottom of that .bat file.

    If your system is 64-bit, move all the "attachment" folders from
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\ to C:\Program
    Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\, creating the latter directory if
    necessary. This way your emails' attachment links will continue to
    work.

    Check whatever files and folders remain in C:\Program
    Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\ (for 32-bit systems) or C:\Program Files
    (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\ (for 64-bit systems). In general you should
    move any files that change while Eudora is being used into
    C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ .

    Finally, move everything from TEMP\ into ...\Qualcomm\Eudora\, and
    then delete TEMP\ (which is now empty).

    [Not sure if necessary: In Windows Explorer, right click on the Eudora
    folder at C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ , select
    Properties and then uncheck Read-only for all its contents.]

    Set Eudora to run as Administrator. Run Eudora and set its current
    attachment directory to C:\Program
    Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\Attachments2014\ or some other name in
    ...Eudora\.


    shuffle_Eudora7_files_in_Win7.bat:

    copy "Emoticons\" TEMP\
    move "Emoticons24\" TEMP\
    move "Emoticons32\" TEMP\
    move "extrastuff\" TEMP\
    copy "Imap\" TEMP\
    copy "plugins\" TEMP\
    move "RootCerts\" TEMP\

    move "american.clx" TEMP\
    move "american.tlx" TEMP\
    move "british.clx" TEMP\
    move "british.tlx" TEMP\
    move "dbghelp.dll" TEMP\
    copy "deudora.ini" TEMP\
    move "DirServ.dll" TEMP\
    move "Eudora.cnt" TEMP\
    move "Eudora.exe" TEMP\
    move "eudora.fts" TEMP\
    move "eudora.gid" TEMP\
    move "EUDORA.hlp" TEMP\
    move "eudora.htm" TEMP\
    move "eudora.tip" TEMP\
    move "EudoraBk.dll" TEMP\
    move "EudoraCCProfiles.xml" TEMP\
    move "EudoraNS.dll" TEMP\
    move "EudoraRes.dll" TEMP\
    move "EudUnInst.dll" TEMP\
    move "EuGraph.ocx" TEMP\
    move "EuLang.dll" TEMP\
    move "EUMAPI.DLL" TEMP\
    move "EuMAPI32.dll" TEMP\
    move "EuMemMgr.dll" TEMP\
    move "EuShlExt.dll" TEMP\
    move "finger.ini" TEMP\
    move "FlameLex.dat" TEMP\
    move "Imap.dll" TEMP\
    move "ISock.dll" TEMP\
    move "Ldap.dll" TEMP\
    move "LDAPinit.ini" TEMP\
    move "libeay32.dll" TEMP\
    move "libexpat.dll" TEMP\
    move "License.txt" TEMP\
    move "Manual.pdf" TEMP\
    move "mfc71.dll" TEMP\
    move "mfc71u.dll" TEMP\
    move "msvcp71.dll" TEMP\
    move "msvcr71.dll" TEMP\
    move "NSImport.eif" TEMP\
    move "OEImport.eif" TEMP\
    move "OLImport.eif" TEMP\
    move "Paige32.dll" TEMP\
    move "Ph.dll" TEMP\
    move "ph.ini" TEMP\
    move "plstclnt.dll" TEMP\
    move "Qckstart.pdf" TEMP\
    move "QCSocket.dll" TEMP\
    move "QCSSL.dll" TEMP\
    move "QCUtils.dll" TEMP\
    move "QuickRf.pdf" TEMP\
    move "Readme.txt" TEMP\
    move "RelNotes.txt" TEMP\
    move "rootcerts.p7b" TEMP\
    move "SPELL32.DLL" TEMP\
    move "ssleay32.dll" TEMP\
    move "swEudora.exe" TEMP\
    copy "updateurl.htm" TEMP\
    move "Whatsnew.pdf" TEMP\



    move "Embedded\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Emoticons\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudPriv\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Filters\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "icons\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    copy "Imap\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "LinkHistory\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Nickname\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "plugins\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "SavedSearches\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Sigs\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "spool\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Stationery\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Search\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "*.fol\" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\

    move *.mbx C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move *.mbx.* C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move *.toc C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move *.toc.* C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move *.log C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Audit.log" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "descmap.pce" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "deudora.ini" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "DoNotDel.tmp" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "esoteric.epi" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "eudora.ini" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "eudora.log" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Eudora61Stats.xml" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp.001" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp.002" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp.003" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp.004" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraCrashDump.dmp.005" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "EudoraStats.xml" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "eudorlog.old" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Exception.log" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Filters.pce" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "Filters.pce.backup" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "History.lst" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "LinkHistory.dat" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "lmos.dat" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "OWNER.LOK" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "uchange.tlx" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "uignore.tlx" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "updateurl.htm" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "usuggest.tlx" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\


    REM I copied a few files above to both TEMP\ and
    REM C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ because I was not
    REM sure to which directory they belonged.

    REM Not sure where to move the following files or others I hadn't
    REM thought of if they show up, but in general you should put any
    REM files that change while Eudora is being used into
    REM C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ .

    REM move "DeIsL1.isu" ?
    REM move "DeIsL2.isu" ?
    REM move "eud.bat" ?
    REM move "ihole.ocx" ?
    REM move "scripts" ?
    REM move "SWMAPI.EXE" ?
    REM move "usercerts.p7b" ?

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    Very nice, detailed explanation, Common Ground - thanks!

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    You bet. Most of the "move" commands I wrote were simply based on
    where I observed the initial, fresh installation of Eudora 7 had
    placed each file -- either into ...\Qualcomm\Eudora\ or
    C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ . A few were based
    on reasonable guesses as to whether I expect the file to remain
    unchanged (so put it into ...\Qualcomm\Eudora\) or be changed during
    future uses of Eudora (so put it into
    C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\ ). I had no clue
    about a few files (so put copies into both directories).

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    P.S. One erratum -- add these 2 commands to the .bat file (these cover Nicknames, etc.):

    move "NNdbase.txt" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    move "RCPdbase.txt" C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora\
    Last edited by CommonGround; 2014-04-25 at 21:31.

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    I've used Eudora for over 10 years, with Win2k, XP, and recently with 7. I've found it to be remarkably versatile and adaptable to these OSs, and CommonGround's instructions, while they may work, are unnecessarily complicated.

    When I recently moved from XP to Win7, Eudora worked, but when sending or downloading email, it would often run on and on, which others have also had a problem with. In a discussion of this here, someone said his would run for 45 minutes before stopping. Mine wasn't that bad, but it did run for a couple of minutes or so.

    The most likely suggestion in that thread is that Eudora continues running because Win7 virtualizes it, and running it through that extra layer of software prolongs the send/receive times. The author of the post says, basically, that Win7 considers anything installed in the Program Files (x86) folder a legacy application and virtualizes it. He suggests creating a new, "non-system" folder called "Program Files (compatibility)" and installing Eudora there.

    The virtualization aspect may be true, but I'm not sure it applies to everything in that folder, and I didn't find it necessary to create a new folder. I transferred my files and apps using a transfer program (PCMover), which ports whatever you select to the new OS, including registry entries. Generally it works pretty well, but for Eudora it didn't. So I uninstalled Eudora, cleared out all the registry keys using Revo (or the uninstall program may do it, or CCleaner), rebooted, and did a clean install in Program Files (x86). This worked fine. I didn't need to run it in compatibility mode or as an administrator. I tried compatibility mode (XP SP3 and SP2), but it didn't change anything. Eudora does run on a little bit sometimes, but not for very long. I can't say it's any worse than it was under XP.

    I also tried creating a "Program Files (compatibility)" folder and installed there too. I ran with both apps open, sending and receiving from one, then the other, but I didn't notice any difference, so I uninstalled the second one and deleted the PF compatibility folder.

    As far as transferring your mailboxes and other Eudora application and data files, you can just drag them all from the old folder(s) to the new one(s) and let them overwrite the default installation files.

    One other thing I did that may have helped is to shut off Windows Defender. It's on by default, and if you have some other antivirus/firewall app, like Norton, WD isn't really necessary and takes up resources. Theoretically it runs only once a day, but it does have real-time protection options, and I'm not convinced something isn't running in the background. Anyway, shutting it off (in Services) seems to have reduced what small run-on effect was left after reinstalling Eudora.

    The only difference I notice running Eudora in Win7 is that when downloading, the blue progress bar at the lower right flickers noticeably, which didn't happen before. It's distracting but not a major annoyance.

    I'm posting this here and not at the MS site linked above, because creating an account to log in there requires giving them all kinds of personal information. "When you sign in with your Microsoft account to any Microsoft service or device, your experiences are more personal and connected." Thanks, Bill, I'll pass.
    Last edited by LastKnownGood; 2014-05-09 at 13:14.

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