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    Windows 8 streamlining the update process...Window Secrets Newsletter....

    After reading the article 'Windows 8 streamlining the update process' I was left with the thought that Windows update never really inconvenienced me that much, let alone wonder why it wasn't better..

    Maybe others have wished it would have the features mentioned in the article for various reasons but Windows Update never really left me scratching my head in frustration why it couldn't be better.

    I admit the re-booting is a pain at times but with Windows 8's almost instant re-boot, re-booting should not be that much of a problem any longer.

    I'm sure others will welcome the new bells and whistles in the new re-boot process but I couldn't care less.

    I would rather wait for the long boot and stretch my legs, scratch my dog, and get a cup of coffee to help minimize the risk of clots in my legs from sitting so much because my computer is gonna re-boot in 10 seconds....

    I'm sure others will disagree with me and, for those that do, you will be removed from my Christmas card list...
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    I actually agree. I do not bother with Susan Bradley's list either. I investigate the updates myself. Why should I trust someone else, even someone with Susan's reputation to tell me what updates I should have. I have never had a problem with WU, and have never been inconvenienced either. I believe many of the problems some have are due to other apps installed or otherproblems with their systems. Now I'm sure I will be removed from some Christmas card lists as well.
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    Like you Ted, I usually apply all updates and rarely, if ever, have had a problem.

    Susan's pieces are very informative, but like other similar pieces they are mostly opinion based on personal preference..

    As long as you can read them and use the facts, but ignore the opinion they are very useful.

    Like what I wrote is mostly opinion sprinkled with scratching my dog, getting coffee, stretching my legs as facts...

    Anyway, enough about my personal habits, I'll send extra cards to you if you get scratched from others list...

    If I could attach a sound file to this I would end this post with a song for all of you to enjoy while you're waiting to re-boot...
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    Since I am responsible for a number of PCs, I always download all the update files first and then install them. I never bother to restart until all are installed. I get the impression that I am being told that this is not recommended.

    Am I taking a risk by not restarting after each install that requests it? I've never had any problems with this. And I've never seen this one-time restart as being a real pain...

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    I always restart when requested.

    It has been my belief that a restart may be needed so the next updates can be installed properly...

    But, that's how I figure it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banyarola View Post
    I always restart when requested.

    It has been my belief that a restart may be needed so the next updates can be installed properly...

    But, that's how I figure it...
    If a reboot is required, you are correct, no further updates will be possible.

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    Yes Ruiib, it seems that's how it works.

    I just follow the rules and do whatever is requested....
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    Same here. If I am in process of doing something, I may hold off temporarily on a reboot until I finish what I'm doing, but as soon as I'm done I reboot. I'm only talking minutes here. I'm never doing anything that might take hours while doing these updates anyway. It's just a matter of timing the updates to when you are idle. These updates are usually pretty quick, at least for me anyway, although I do have a pretty quick connection.
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    Well Ted, I do the same thing you do.
    I really don't find the update process that much trouble to do.

    I mean, what's really involved....Most of the time they only take a few minutes.

    In my opinion, the choices now given when updating are fine for me...

    Others may feel differently.
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    Thanks all for your input.

    Quote Originally Posted by ruirib View Post
    If a reboot is required, you are correct, no further updates will be possible.
    Well, I've never found it impossible to install updates after NOT rebooting when requested; can't say I've ever seen a reboot 'required'. I just install them all (never been told I can't continue, just select 'Reboot Later'), then reboot after all have been installed. I do this both with XP and with Win7 - and used to do it with ME, and also with Office (2000 and 2007).

    I've frequently done the same with dozens of updates after a reinstall of XP; I just add as many as 30 updates without reboot without problems. I've sometimes wondered if this is recommended, but I've not once experienced a problem or been forced to reboot.

    Based on my evidence base, I'm not convinced I should change this practice...

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    wartaaid, I think you are a little confused.

    While you may be able to install the updates without re-booting the problem is that they won't take effect until you re-boot and the updates are loaded into your system files.

    So if you don't re-boot you are effectively running your computer without the benefit of the updates that required a re-boot..

    This could leave your computer at risk until the next time you shut down and re-start or the next time you re-boot..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wartaaids View Post
    Thanks all for your input.


    Well, I've never found it impossible to install updates after NOT rebooting when requested; can't say I've ever seen a reboot 'required'. I just install them all (never been told I can't continue, just select 'Reboot Later'), then reboot after all have been installed. I do this both with XP and with Win7 - and used to do it with ME, and also with Office (2000 and 2007).

    I've frequently done the same with dozens of updates after a reinstall of XP; I just add as many as 30 updates without reboot without problems. I've sometimes wondered if this is recommended, but I've not once experienced a problem or been forced to reboot.

    Based on my evidence base, I'm not convinced I should change this practice...

    Chris
    As Banyarola pointed out, you can install as many updates as you wish at a given time. Windows will install them all and if a reboot is needed, Windows Update won't check for any further updates until you reboot. The updates you install that require a reboot won't be installed until you reboot.
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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Quote Originally Posted by Banyarola View Post
    wartaaid, I think you are a little confused.

    While you may be able to install the updates without re-booting the problem is that they won't take effect until you re-boot and the updates are loaded into your system files.

    So if you don't re-boot you are effectively running your computer without the benefit of the updates that required a re-boot..

    This could leave your computer at risk until the next time you shut down and re-start or the next time you re-boot..
    Actually, I think the confusion arose from the statement "If a reboot is required, you are correct, no further updates will be possible." I read that to mean that it would not be possible to install any more updates until a reboot had been done. Seems like perhaps I've been using the term 'update' in a different way from other folk: I used it to mean an individual update (KB?), while others perhaps take it to mean a complete set of KBs released (usually) on Black Tuesday. I got the impression that folk were saying that it is imperative to reboot after each KB is installed (if so required), and thus each tranche of KBs could require multiple reboots.

    Just to confirm: I install all the KBs one after the other, with no restart. Immediately I have completed all, I then reboot. As I say, I've done it this way for ever, and never had any problem. I never expected the update to be fully effective until after the reboot, but I can't believe the short time between installing the remaining KBs and rebooting leaves me at much additional risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Myers View Post
    I actually agree. I do not bother with Susan Bradley's list either. I investigate the updates myself. Why should I trust someone else, even someone with Susan's reputation to tell me what updates I should have. I have never had a problem with WU, and have never been inconvenienced either. I believe many of the problems some have are due to other apps installed or otherproblems with their systems. Now I'm sure I will be removed from some Christmas card lists as well.
    Not from Mine. Ted.
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