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    New Motherboard & CPU

    I haven't found an answer to this here. Please forgive me if I've missed it.
    I can't believe that it has been almost 10 years since I built my WinXP desktop. I am not a computer tech person. So, I was fortunate to obtain a motherboard (Asus) that came with good instructions that enabled me to install it and set it up with no serious problems. It's been running great ever since.
    I recently obtained a camera with some software that requires a dual core CPU. My computer needs are not very intensive and I was going to keep XP going as long as possible. This new software made me realize that the end of XP is close and maybe it is time to upgrade. Based on my good fortune the first time, I'm thinking that maybe I can upgrade my current system with a new motherboard and processor and, of course, new memory. My first thought is to get a motherboard/processor package.
    Can anyone recommend a motherboard and CPU that will come with good step by step instructions. I have read some user reviews (including Asus) that say certain ones are good but not for the novice to install. As i stated above, my needs are moderate. Probably the most intensive use will be light CAD or light photo processing. If possible, I would like to use my current IDE drives.
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    Try looking on Amazon, Ebuyer, Novatech and many others and reading there reviews. Once you have at least tried then post back for advice.
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    If it's Asus your interested in, check out their site and download the specs of candidates you find interesting.
    Look for schematics and other "builder" types of info when browsing for boards.Don't rely too heavily on user reviews, I mean, they're great when you have a few dozen of them, you look for common issues that others are experiencing. But they can also be quite subjective, so read between the lines.

    Have you browsed through Newegg's section of "barebones" systems?
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    I have to agree with,Clint's suggestion.As far as the,IDE situation.Plan on buying a new DVD rom,along with a new hard drive.Because the newer mother boards,DO NOT have the IDE hook ups.The best of luck on your new bulid.
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    I have been assembling systems since the DOS days and just recently built one for a client and have the following comments. I use AMD exclusively because I am experienced with them, I also use ASUS MB because they do have very good instructions and a easy to use web site. I get most of my components from Computer Geeks, but also use Amazon and Newegg. I do recommend purchasing the MB with CPU, Memory, and cooler, (bare bones) if you are not expert in this area. Also you should be aware of the fact that new MB don't always have the Parallel port for printers or PS2 ports for KB and Mouse, some have connections on the MB so that you can purchase adapters for them separately. Using WinXP will be ok for the immediate future, I actually Use WinXP64 on all my machines but don't recommend it for the novice because software drivers for devices are sometimes hard to come by. Other items would be that the Floppy disk is gone, but there is still a connection for IDE DVD & CD, but Hard drives are serial ATA (SATA) I did develop a course for http://pdhonline.org/ that does show you how to upgrade your computer, but it id for engineers needing CE credits.

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    Thanks for all the good comments.

    As I stated, I have read a number of user reviews and, of those, most are unclear when it comes to ease of installation unless there are problems. So, I'm asking for advice here.

    I only mentioned Asus because of the good luck I had with it 10 years ago. Based on these comments, I may stick with Asus. I hadn't considered a bare-bones system but may do so as I get more into this.

    I'm a little confused about what you say about IDE. One of you says it's gone and another says there are still connections. I suppose it varies from mb to mb? I'll watch for that. I hate to give up perfectly good drives. Also, I have a relatively new DVD drive that I added to the existing system just a couple of years ago.

    I understand that MS will be supporting XP through 2014 (or is it 2013?) but I have an unused CD of Win7 that I plan to put into a new build. So, it should be good for the foreseeable future.

    Thanks again

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    If you are near a Microcenter, they will install your CPU and memory on it and run a quick test for $1. Well worth it and saves a lot of installation time. I've found thier prices to be good as well.
    By the way, many motherboards support at least one IDE port as well as SATA.
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    I'm a little confused about what you say about IDE
    On most of your newest boards the IDE connector will not exist anymore.
    But you don't necessarily need the latest cutting edge tech to build a decent computer. Building a generation or two behind
    the latest tech will be budget friendly and yeild some very decent end results.

    I highly recommend looking through Newegg's selection of motherboards, just to look through and compare, it will give you the best idea of what's out there to choose from. They have one of the best site layouts for browsing computer components even if you have no intention of buying from them.

    Most people base their build around a processor. Once you have a processor in mind you could then start to go through the hundreds of choices and features and hone them down to something more reasonable.


    As I stated, I have read a number of user reviews and, of those, most are unclear when it comes to ease of installation unless there are problems. So, I'm asking for advice here.
    Looking solely through user reviews are the worst places to get info on the physical building aspect of it.

    If you want good info on how to do a particular build, choose something, look through all the product spec sheets and whitesheets
    you can find on it, then start to formulate a build plan based around your choices. You will need to have a place in which to start.

    If you are out of touch & uncertain when it comes to doing a build, you will definitely need to start doing some research, as technology
    will have changed since your last build 10 years ago. Most of your research, if not all of it, will be based around a multitude of
    compatibilities between the individual parts you choose. Everything from the processor right down to the case will need to
    be looked at carefully to make sure that everything fits and that everything is compatible.


    Once you have chosen we will be happy to help guide you in anyway we can.
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    Last night I was perusing the internet looking at barebones kits. I found a couple that look very interesting. I may have some questions later. I've got more looking to do. I like the concept of a kit that includes everything I need and components that are known to work together properly. I hope that's not to much of an assumption. One I was looking at appeared to have "middle of the road" components which did not totally tax the MB capacity. So, there was room for future expansion/update. It looks like this method will result in a better performing machine at a lower cost than even the cut-rate machines sold at the office supply stores or online.

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    Last night I did some more looking and found this among others that are similar:
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...4873&CatId=332
    Gigabyte has been around a long time. I guess they are good. Specs indicate a lot of room to expand/update. My existing AMD Athlon has run for almost 10 years with no problem. The Athlon II x3 445 looks like it has more than adequate processing power for my needs, at least, for now. Seagate 500GB is good. 8GB of memory is good. I don't know much about the rest but assume they are adequate. I checked prices of individual components and it appears that the kit is about $100 cheaper. Does anyone see any shortcomings or any missing components? Any other comments?

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    I'm a little concerned about the PSU, at present it's alright, but if you plan to upgrade the GPU and
    add a few extra internal drives, you will need a more powerfull power supply.



    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...0&Sku=B69-0458
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    I agree about the power supply. It's getting old now, and so are the intake/exhaust fans in your case. Maybe your best move is to sell the old computer and start afresh. Don't risk damaging new components if the old psu goes up in smoke! The hard drives are old, too,and are definitely a bottleneck/slowdown factor with new cpu and memory.
    Save all wanted data & documents onto another drive. Uninstall programs you don't want to supply to another user. Then run the excellent CCleaner utility, making sure to enable "Cookies" removal as well as the "wipe free disk space" feature. That will clean up junk files and all internet traces, followed by securely erasing all empty space remaining on the drive.

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    Thumbs down Gigabit MB

    Sorry I have not been on line for a while
    The MB you were looking at does not have a connection for the old IDE Hard drives or Disk rives, nor does it have a printer port. You also will nee at least a 600 watt power supply. You would have to purchase a Sata CD/DVD drive

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