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    Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Sometimes, when I go to a website, there will be a button there that I just can't get to work. A simple example of this is:
    www.timwike.dircon.co.uk/card.html

    I suspect the problem has to do with my security settings, but I've no idea what to change. I can find very little helpful information about most of the settings, especially:
    ActiveX controls, whether signed, unsigned or "scripted"
    Java permissions
    Scripting of Java applets
    Launching programs and files in an IFRAME
    Software channel permissions

    Can you give me a clue about what I need to change in order to be able to use this site and others, and still be somewhat secure?
    Thanx

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Hi
    Glad you asked that. It'll be for the reasons you describe : some of your security settings are too high. Pop over to my web site and click the Index button. Right in the top left of the page which comes up is a document (or PDF if you have Adobe Acrobat) 'Active Content and Security Settings' which I wrote after a series of tutorials from R M Rucker. The default settings MS provide are not good enough.
    My technique in these cases (and where it says things like 'you are not authorised to send HTML pages') is to have my Trusted Sites (in IE, Tools/Internet Options/Security) set to everything enabled and have a button on the IE toolbar which you can click to 'add sites to Trusted zone'. To do this, get download #85, IE Buttons Pack, again written with the help and expertise of RMR. However, take care when adding sites to a Trusted Zone - for your own safety you really do have to trust them.

    Cheers

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    I went to your nifty site and downloaded "Active Contend and Security" as suggested. Page two tells me my version of MSJVM should be 5.00.3802, whereas I presently have 5.00.3309. I visited the site indicated for upgrading, but whatever had been there was no more. I searched for the upgrade and only found a page that said 5.00.3802 is for IE6. I have IE5.5, SP2. Where do I go from here?

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Hi
    Depends if you want full security (or at least as full as plugging known security holes can make it). The JVM of your vintage is vulnerable to attacks that, as far as I'm aware IE does not address - this is my reading of the various suggestions I've come across.

    Having been in your situation, <font color=red> I would upgrade IE to IE6</font color=red>, which ought to give you VM ..3802, though it didn't for me - I had to get it separately. This combination gives proper security under current conditions.
    BTW : IE 6 is out on a number of cover discs, so saving a long download if you don't have broadband.

    Sorry if the URL I gave you led to a site that led you to believe 3802 is only for IE6. It isn't.
    Note that if you have Windows 2000, then SP2 should give you 3802. Strangely enough, it seems XP does need the upgrade.

    <blockquote><hr>Microsoft Virtual Machine for Internet Explorer
    (Build 3802, released 1/25/01)

    The Microsoft

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Thanks. I actually bumbled into a site that gave me the 3802 download, and it now shows as the version on my machine.

    I subsequently went to the website that I gave above as an example of where I run into trouble. I made that a "trusted site" (everything enabled, Java applets set to Low Safety. The "continue" button on that site still will not work for me. It appears to depress OK, but nothing follows the depression except *my* depression.

    Any other ideas?

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    I visited your referenced site, and found access denied by 'disable Active Script" in IE6 Security. When enabled, could proceed on to next step.

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Thank you. I went there, made sure Active Script was enabled, could not proceed to the next step -- no change.

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Good luck on finding the right door. Incidentally, the site contained a rather juvenile trick!

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    ...from the last few posts, I rather suspect it's the site at fault, not your system settings.

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    MerC:

    For legal reasons (ie. conflict with Sun over Java standards) Microsoft can not bundle the VM with IE6 but can either continue to use a previously installed VM (eg. from IE5 install) or, can provide a separate link to download the VM.

    This also means that everybody who installs WinXP has to separately install the VM. I have it copied to my setups archive so I can do it quickly.

    Go figure. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Hi MerC:

    Grabbed your document. Good work. <img src=/S/cheers.gif border=0 alt=cheers width=30 height=16>

    Having said that, I ended up doing a couple of things differently.

    1)I enabled Downloads | File Download in Internet Zone
    2)I unchecked "Require Server Verification ( https: )" in Trusted Sites.

    The first was required as I frequently go to sites to grab a file but don't want to give that site as much freedom as they would have as a Trusted Site.

    The second was required as most trusted sites are not secured (eg. banking) sites.

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> Those are my settings too. I must have forgotten about changing them. Along with the enable File Downloads, I also allow enable Fonts downloads. As far as I can tell, though, these two don't involve Active Content and I can't see much point in disabling them. No doubt someone will explain where this is wrong. Is there an alphabet worm spread through infected fonts?

    Rgds

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    Re: Making sites work right (IE 5.5 Sp2)

    Quick note -- sorry, I've have been busy with all the Firewall leak testing. MerC, as Ian says, IE6 specifically will NOT give you Java VM 3802 -- you must download it separately.

    Also - I agree with the removal of the https for Trusted sites and for enabling File Downloads. I have kept Font Downloads on "Prompt" for well over a year, and I have NEVER received one prompt!! Go figure...

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