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    fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    I have had normal.dot attacked by virus in the past.
    If hackers can do that, shouldn't I be able to make changes to normal.dot to make it the way it should have been?

    I would like to get rid of the default 10 point times roman font and make it 12 point courier. But that selection is greyed out.

    Is there some way to write VB or otherwise edit normal.dot so that hideous fuzzy tiny times roman font is replaced by something that is larger and more legible as the default?

    I suppose I could sue microsoft for violating the ADA law but I would rather just tweak my normal.dot.

    IT IS NECESSARY TO FIX THE ORIGINAL. MAKING A NEW TEMPLATE LEAVES THE DEFAULT 10 PT TIMES ROMAN AND IT TURNS ITSELF ON AT ANNOYING TIMES.

    PEOPLE WILL NOT FOLLOW THE RULES AND USE THE TEMPLATE ANYWAY. THEY USE THE CRAPPY DEFAULT 10PT TIMES ROMAN WHICH IS AESTHETICALLY HIDEOUS AND IS HARD TO READ.

    PLEASE. HOW DOES ONE FIX NORMAL.DOT? IF HACKERS CAN DO IT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT FOR GOOD PURPOSES.

    Note: the option for the default is grayed out. I cannot just change it and save it over the old normal.dot using the usual means.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    You should be able to open "normal" template and make all the chnges that you want. But if some one has protected it, you may not be able to. What version are trying to change at this time?

    I have been able to make changes to this template for ALL versions of Word that I have used. I have been using Word and/or Office since Word 2.0 and have not missed a upgrade.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    yes you *should* be able to
    but in *all* versions of word
    the *default paragraph font* is grayed out to 10 pt times roman
    even if you have a different normal font
    that default will come to life when you dont want it to

    we need a way to fix our only copy of normal.dot to change the default to 12 point courier not 10pt times roman

    there has to be a way to hack normal.dot or to add a VB macro
    to undo that abomination of a default

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    Could you close Word, delete your normal.dot, then restart Word to have a new one load?

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    sorry no that does not work

    take any document or template
    even an original normal.dot

    do format style and pick DEFAULT PARAGRAPH

    it is GRAYED OUT
    and you cannot change it

    I need a way around the gray out that MS imposed
    so we can remove that hideous font as default that they inflicted on us

    times roman was designed to pack the max text on a page
    and has no redeeming values
    it is unaesthetic, hard to read, and the msword version is also fuzzy and tracked way too tight.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    To change the font, go to format, style, double click on "normal" and edit the font from there. You cannot change it in DEFAULT PARAGRAPH.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    Are you saying that you open a blank page in Word, and cannot change the font, right there in broad daylight.

    If you can change the font in a word doc, you can setup a blank page to your liking, then 'save as' a template, then swap names until you get it in the proper directory as normal.dot.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    I am saying that *nobody* can change the *DEFAULT* font
    by normal means

    try it

    NOT NORMAL - DEFAULT
    we can change normal
    but default comes back to bite us

    and some people will not choose normal
    we need to default them to *our* font not the one MS used

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    *nobody* can change the *DEFAULT* font
    by normal means

    try it

    NOT NORMAL - DEFAULT
    we can change normal


    some people will not choose normal
    we need to default them to *our* font not the one MS used

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    i could
    but that would not do anything for the problem]

    we need to set a different *default* not normal font

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    You are using "default" in two different ways. The font that comes up when Word starts out of the box is TNR, 10pt. You CAN change that, as other posters have said.

    The "default paragraph font" IS the font of the underlying paragraph. By definition, you can't change that.

    Do this:
    1. Press Ctrl+D (or go to Format/Font).
    2. Change the Font from TNR to Courier (assuming it's installed on your computer).
    3. Change the size to whatever you want.
    4. Now click on the "default" button in the lower left corner (Word 97) or wherever you find it.
    5. Answer "yes" to the question.
    6. OK your way out of the dialog box.
    7. Close Word & if it says there are changes to the normal template, answer "yes".

    Now your default font is changed.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    we have a failure to communicate
    probably due to microsofts terminology

    format
    style
    in the box there are a lot of things that can be changed
    one of them is normal font
    on that cannot be is DEFAULT PARAGRAPH FONT
    scroll up and see the symbol next to it
    click on it
    and see that all the options are grayed out

    it will require a different way to change the default para font
    than the toc headers normal and other choices

    the normal font may be "default" in some sense but the
    ms default paragraph font 10 pt times roman will kick in at
    random and change the document

    besides we cannot get users to pick the normal font
    they are too dumb
    they use the default and get the wrong font

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    whomper,

    Please read those posts a little more thoroughly. What these nice people are trying to tell you is that <font color=red>Default Paragraph Font does not really exist on its own</font color=red>. Notice the C in front of it--that means it's a character style. Say there are two words in a paragraph that are styled differently from the rest. Default Paragraph Font will make those words the same as the rest of the paragraph. That's it. That's what it's for.

    If you change the format for Normal and save it in Normal.dot, then any <font color=red>new</font color=red> files will start out with that as the Default Paragraph Font. <font color=red>If it's still defaulting to 10 pt Times, then so is Normal.</font color=red>

    Your dumb users don't need to select Normal--it's just there. If you follow Phil's instructions and it still doesn't work on new documents, then maybe there are multiple versions of Normal.dot or something.

    Lin

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    i think we still have a communications problem
    there is no "c" in front of it when i look
    where are you looking at it at?
    i am looking in the box that says style
    after i do format / style /
    there is a solid triangle/arrow pointing to a small "a" with an underline followed by default paragraph font
    but there is no "c"

    no matter what or how i change
    and i have deleted *all* files with the word normal in them
    and rebooted before attempting to fix the initial normal.dot

    i can change normal font
    i can change most everything

    i cannot change the style listing for default paragraph font
    AND THIS FONT WILL COME TO LIFE ON ITS OWN WHEN we edit a document.

    we want to rip times roman out of our machines and delete every reference to it
    but we cannot get rid of the default paragraph font in the style

    and if it did not spring to life when it was not wanted we would not care but it comes back and bites us

    there must be some magic VB incantation to change this just like that bleeping paper clip

    i have tried the recommendations made here
    but they do NOT do what the suggester thinks they do
    when i do them on my machine

    i still think folks are confusing the style named default with the generic word default. if i am missing something simple please try to explain it in a different manner. i do not see nor get the results others think should occur.

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    Re: fixing normal.dot (95 97 98 2000)

    Could you attach a document to show what is happening because what you have said so far makes no sense whatsoever.

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