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    Installing SSD onto Win 8

    Hi
    Not sure if this should be here under Win 8 or in Hardware under SSDs.

    Emboldened by my recent successes in converting from Win 7 32 bit to 64 bit then to Win 8 64 Bit and finally replacing the second HDD on my PC witha 1 TB unit (in place of previous 500 GB unit) I decided to go for a 256 GB OCZ Vertex SSD as my boot drive.

    Using a tutorial to do same in Win 7 out of a local PC mag as a guide I made a System image of the C drive on an external 2 BTB drive then set to and installed the SSD.
    Sys Image was about 70 GB

    All went well, I ended up in troubleshoot and selected advanced options which has System Image Recovery, that found my system image on the external Drive, I then excluded the 1 TB internal drive from the re-image process, then clicked next, again it confirmed where my system image was and that my computer w=ill be restored from it click finish and then Yes.

    System buzzes for a few seconds then I get a message " The system image restore failed"
    Error Details: The Disk that is set as active in BIOS is too small to recover the original system disk. Replace the disk with a larger one and retry the restore operation. (0x80042407).

    I then tried the refresh your PC option but that gives a message "The drive where Windows is installed is locked. Unlock the drive and try again."

    May re install original HDD and wait until someone comes up with suggestions re how to get around the problems I have.

    Appreciate any help.

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    Bob t

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    Sounds like partition size mismatch. What size is that partition that holds Windows 8 on you spinner?
    Create a new drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!

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    Doh! Its 450GB - The instructions I am following said to shrink the partition size (though its a bit ambiguous in my defence) but I didn't follow that bit!
    So put the original spinner back, shrink the partition til it is less than the SSD, re-image and then repeat the installation and all should be well?

    Thanks for your comment -

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    OK so i tried that and I find that my Boot / C drive won't shrink to the size needed. I have a 465 GB Spinning C drive - of this 450 GB is the boot drive and 15 GB is the old (from Vista!) recovery partition.
    of the 450 approx 75 GB is used and 375 is unused. Of the 75 about 40 are files which show up in windirstat as unknown - they were several hundred GB before i recently converted from win 7 to 8.

    So i have 375 GB free on the boot partition but the disk management says i can only shrink it by 10 GB!

    Does not compute (Sorry couldn't resist it).

    the other alternative is to do a clean install of Win 8 on the SSD BUT from what i read the Win 8 Pro upgrade is precisely that i.e. you can't use it for what will appear to be a new installation.

    So.... anyone any ideas of any ways around either of the two road blocks i seem to have.

    Appreciate your help!!!

    Just wanna play with my toy!!

    Bob t

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    What app did you use to create the image?

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    Used the windows 7 file recovery tool in Control Panel - within that i used the Create a system image tool, is there something better I should use which would get round the problem?
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    I never did trust the Win 7 app, Just too limited. I use Acronis True Image 2013 for Imaging. Others have spoken highly of Macrium Reflect and EaseUS Todo. Any of these apps will easily handle Imaging, and most likely much better than the Win 7 app. Be sure to make a bootable Rescue Boot Disk for whichever app you use.
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    I would download Acronis True Image 2013 and take advantage of the trial period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Todd View Post
    So i have 375 GB free on the boot partition but the disk management says i can only shrink it by 10 GB!

    Does not compute (Sorry couldn't resist it).

    Bob t
    The likely culprit is the paging file, somewhere towards the middle of the partition. Windows can't move the paging file, but a third party partitioning tool should be able to move the paging file and shrink the partition. I use BootIt Bare Metal (not free, $39.99, but has a fully functional 30 day free trial period) which has no problem with this procedure. BootIt Bare Metal also includes Image For DOS, an excellent imaging tool.
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    Create a new drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!

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    The Acronis product has worked very well for me. Plus there are often very good deals offered for it's purchase. You just have to keep a good watch for deals.
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    The install sounds like its working fine, is there a reason I didn't see why a clone to SSD is not being suggested? That gets around the partition mismatch either by setting or default. I don't know what programs are free/trial and updated to work with W8 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F.U.N. downtown View Post
    The install sounds like its working fine, is there a reason I didn't see why a clone to SSD is not being suggested? That gets around the partition mismatch either by setting or default. I don't know what programs are free/trial and updated to work with W8 though.
    Only 3rd party tools will allow a clone and 3rd party tools were suggested.

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    Only for partition management/shrinkage and imaging though it seems. Cloning would be direct and bypass both steps.

    I looked up the latest EaseUS ToDo Free and it indicates compatibility with Win 8 and includes GPT disks and allows partition(s) to drive cloning. I still use my rusty old trusty version 3.0 and that defaults to whatever the destination drive size is, as long as the data will fit. I'll download this latest version myself but don't know exactly when I'd be trying it in the future.

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    FYI this is the how to I am / was trying to follow
    http://apcmag.com/how-to-transfer-yo...-ssd-drive.htm

    I am thinking now of using Acronis true Image or Acronis Migrate along with a USB to SATA cable so I can transfer to the new SSD via that then disconnect the old HDD and re boot - that should work - Yes?

    Thanks for all comments.

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    Acronis True Image should work, yes, and you can just clone the disk to the SSD.

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