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    Windows 8 Clean Install from Upgrade Disk to SSD with no Operating System

    I'm about to build a new pc and would like to know if I need to buy a full version of Windows 8 or can I use the update version to do a clean install on a disk drive which does not contain any operating system? It was possible to install Windows 7 from an upgrade rather than having to buy the full version so can something similar be done with Windows 8 and still be legitimate within the licence agreement?

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    This is the kind of thing where no-one can really say until someone tries it, but if you would like a guess, it is no. I think they have closed this hole.

    With Windows 7, you could do a full install of Windows 7 without entering the activation key, and then it would accept the unactivated install of Windows 7 as a valid Operating System to upgrade from. After the second install you could enter your activation key and have a fully valid installation. Microsoft knew about it, but simply refused to comment on whether it violated the EULA.

    Windows 8 won't let you install without an activation key. There may be some other way to do it with Windows 8, and if there is, we should hear about it soon.

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    It was possible to install Windows 7 from an upgrade rather than having to buy the full version so can something similar be done with Windows 8 and still be legitimate within the licence agreement?

    1. Yes I believe it is possible to do, by jumping through some hoops. There have been threads here in the Lounge that describe methods and a Google search also gives details.

    2. No, I don't think it is within the licence terms and conditions.

    Notwithstanding the Enterprise 90-day evaluation product, a Technet/MSDN version, or more exotic NFR and volume licensing schemes, the only valid licence to use when installing Windows 8 on a machine which contains no pre-existing OS is the PUL System Builder Licence.
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    Ditto what Tinto states. The Upgrade Media (the $40 offer from MS) requires a qualifying OS to be replaced. These will include Win XP, Win Vista or Win 7.
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    Windows 8 Clean Install from Upgrade Disk to SSD with no Operating System
    I'm about to build a new pc and would like to know if I need to buy a full version of Windows 8 or can I use the update version to do a clean install on a disk drive which does not contain any operating system? It was possible to install Windows 7 from an upgrade rather than having to buy the full version so can something similar be done with Windows 8 and still be legitimate within the licence agreement?
    The answer is yes, BUT...
    You will need to perform a refresh after the clean install to get the product key to activate.
    This WindowsEightForum's article will show you how.

    This is the caveat:
    If you wish to retain the rights to and continued use of your previous OS, I would strongly suggest the full Windows 8 version.
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    Essentially that method seems to be almost identical to one of the methods for a clean install of Win 7 upgrade.
    Just like the previous OS, there has to be a way of course, unless at some point all hard drive or motherboard failures become a thing of the past.

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    As is quite often the case with MS, the license agreement and what one can actually do are two different things, barring hacks and cracks.
    A degree of built in fudge I like to think, otherwise those loopholes would get closed rather quickly.
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