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    pls recommend an email program other than outlook

    we have xp pro
    had been using eudora 6 quite well on dial up
    but had to 'upgrade' to eudora 7 to make new high speed internet work with email at all
    now we are getting strange problems with eudora

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    pls recommend an email program to use with xp pro over fios

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    any suggestions for fixing eudora problems wuold be nice as we liked eudora up to now
    seem to be related to ccsvchst mostly
    but that might be a symptom of something happenign during mailbox compacting or other things eudora does

    we have lost two mailboxes of mail that we wanted to keep trying to get eudora to shutdown andor to stop filtering mail and start working

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    got email from new sender
    transferred from trash to inbox as it was someone i knew
    eudora hung solid - no attachments or html or flash that i could see so that is a mystery

    so after the last hang up i renamed the inbox and its toc to keep it around but not in use and eudora seems to be working much better after it generated a new inbox and toc

    but i cant find any way to get to the old emails in the renamed inbox to save them in our archives

    any suggestions for getting to them is appreciated

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    any suggestions for a newer better xp based email program is appreciated
    thanks

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    I have been using Eudora 7 for many years, no problems, not even after upgrading to Win 7. If I were you I'd back-up all the data, (all .mbx & all .toc files, and all the saved attachments wherever you have them stored0. Then do a fresh install. After that you can use a file manager to copy the .mbx & .toc files back into the new Eudora (mine are all in Eudora > Data). As for opening the old In box, as long it is an .mbx file you should be able to open it by double-clicking it in a file manager. It's worked for me in the past.

    David

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    thanks

    i think the problem is related to eudora filters andor norton security
    sometimes the filtering gets stuck in an infinite loop
    sometimes ccssvchst does.

    or they may be working against each other

    anyway
    killed all filters
    so far seems to be working solid again

    but it may be a norton problem as there are a lot of posts about ccsvchst being buggy on the net and saying to get a new version

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    I have never used Norton, for anything, you hear of so many problems with the big, all swinging, all dancing suites, can't think why anyone pays for trouble. Never had a problem with Avast, nor any viruses either. I don't use Eudora filters either, don't need to because I have Mailwasher Pro (http://www.firetrust.com/) There used to be a free version, maybe there still is, Their support is superb, and I have no axe to grind here. It monitors all my e-mail accounts, and I just trash the garbage without it ever reaching Eudora.

    For a start I'd try to get rid of Norton, that I believe is not easy. Then for a while run Eudora without filters, if all goes well add them back one at a time. I still haven't seen a better e-mail program.

    David

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    A bit of History:

    I'm a computer tech and have been for 30+ years. For both myself and my hundreds of personal customers, I try to keep everything as Simple as possible.

    At a friends insistence, I tried Eudora, once, several years back. My Security Software said it was infected with Spyware, and deleted it. Well, So much for that.

    I went back to my first choice for an easy to set up and operate eMail program..... OUTLOOK EXPRESS 6.0

    What could be simpler? It's already an integral part of Windows XP and it just works! Every PC tech in the world knows how to fix any problems that you may come up with. The address book and saved eMail is even transferable to Windows Vista and Windows 7 (Windows Mail).

    I even have transferred my data to Windows 8.... but that's another story.

    As for the very mention of Norton.... it gives me the shivers. When I set up a PC for my customers, that's the first piece of Crapware that I get rid of. First, go into Add/Remove programs and UN-Install it. Then, to clean up the mess that it leaves behind, you'll need the "Norton Removal Tool", supplied by Symantec.

    https://www-secure.symantec.com/nort...=1&lg=en&ct=us

    Norton (Symantec) updates their removal tool about once a month, so if you try to use one that has expired, it will direct you to download the new version.

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    For XP, if I wasn't going to use Outlook, I would use Outlook Express.

    If neither one was a desired option, I'd use Thunderbird.

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    my spyware said tht once too
    it found the adware in the free version

    there are no security problems with eudora
    and outlook has major holes in i t

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    thanks

    i will look at thunderbird

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    thanks
    did that with eudora 6
    the problem is with 7 that i had to use to connect via fios because they block some port 6 wont let me change
    7 has problems with the manual mbx handling
    something is different now
    i thought they used to save everything as text
    but now it is all coded in the mbx itself
    and that may be part of the problem if they cant read their metadata right

    things were fine for a long long time
    then the problems started happening

    best that i can tell is that it is interop issues with eudora and nortorn
    maybe norton update changed one of its files because that is associated with the issue
    but it could be with eudora compressing mailboxes
    or they might have triggered some third program that i have not spotted yet
    and they all keep playing circular dominos

    the only other thing that may be involved is win and the drive that i compressed by mistake. there could be timing issues as well as the way they put data in/out of the compressed format.
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