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    Boot times

    Are the following start up times for my PC too slow or OK, from 2.8 minutes to 3.9 minutes?
    Windows 7 Pro.
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    They seem slow. I would start by cleaning out all temp. files then start looking at what and/or how many things are starting with Windows. Most apps, when first installed, think themselves so important that they need to start with Windows. Just ain't so. All I have starting with Windows is my AV/AM app, MalwareBytes Antimalware Pro app, my touchpad app, and my mouse S/W. I have stopped everything else.

    Use an app such as What's In Startup or the more robust Autoruns for Windows to see and disable startup "stuff" that you do not need. Many people are surprised by all this "stuff" starting with Windows.
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    Attachment shows "Whatsinstartup" Does this seem too much? If some of these were disabled do they still run when required?

    Startup.png

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    Probably the only thing needed there is AVG and the sidebar. However, I wouldn't expect much improvement in those times.
    If it is any comfort, my boot up times are in the vicinity of yours, but I boot my Windows 7 computer around 2 times a month.

    Windows 8 is much better in terms of boot times.
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    As Rui mentions, most of the things you show are not necessary. In years gone by when PC's were much slower, I suppose loading many of these things at startup may have helped, but today, very few of these things need to start with Windows. They will start quickly when you need them to by simply clicking on their .exe files.

    In your case, before removing them, simply disable them, then see how things work. If the apps in question still perform correctly, get rid of everything. For example, I also use File Hippo. I have a shortcut for when I need it. I do not need or want the app phoning home automatically to check for updates. I am fully capable of doing so on my own before I create a new Image.
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    Many thanks guys, I will try the disable route and see how things go.

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    I tried these and most of it worked

    http://youtu.be/twJk7ymLmfA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MQG1023 View Post
    I tried these and most of it worked
    I'd not recommend that route; a good way to make a PC non-bootable is to throw random software and fixes at it before getting a solid diagnosis.

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    If you can afford it, put in a SSD drive for the boot drive. Initially I went from similar boot times, to in the 50 second range, with Win 7. I haven't bothered cleaning out start up programs as mentioned, and I'm still booting in just over a minute. I guess sometimes throwing money at a problem works sometimes. :-) The SSD drives are coming down in price and getting bigger. I have a 250 gig Patriot Pyro SE for my C drive. I also installed programs for video and picture editing on the C drive. They sure run a lot faster, and I am only using about 35-40% of the drive.

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    I am surprised no one mentioned this. Download "CCleaner" from Piriform (its publisher) or from FileHippo. Sign up for FileHippo newsletters along the way to get updates on new software and tools, and updates that are released on a daily basis. I have found a lot a good (& free) software this way.

    Once you install CCleaner (Computer Cleaner or Crap Cleaner) - first run Cleaner and get rid of ALL the junk files it finds, and do this on a daily basis. Next run the Registry Cleaner (once a week is good enough) and get rid of the junk (based on experience, there is no need to save the "to be" deleted registry entries

    Next, go to Tool > Startup & voila, you do not have to mess with MSConfig. Here you can Disable/Enable the Startup details to your heart's content. You do not have to even Delete anything.

    Good luck.

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    SSDs still expensive here in South Africa, 60GB SATA111 SSD R1000,00.

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    I have TuneUp Utilities 2014 which I think does a similar job to CCleaner.
    My boot times presently are in the 2 minute range after some disabling in startup.I think I can live with this.
    Many thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveBRenn View Post
    Are the following start up times for my PC too slow or OK, from 2.8 minutes to 3.9 minutes?
    Windows 7 Pro.
    Regards
    Dave
    You're kidding.......Right?
    If your PC is taking more than 30 sec's to boot up, You've got some work to do.
    or
    "Lucy, you've got some splaining to do!"

    I get called out to work on Windows 7 PC's, every once in a while, where you could read a short novel in the time it takes for the PC to boot up.
    In defense, some of those people just don't shut their PC off anymore. NOT GOOD!

    I have several cleanup programs that I run to clean out the junk. Taking out over 100,000 junk files is not at all uncommon. People probably clean their house, or sometimes even clean out the car, but never clean out their PC's. A friend, who is an IT Specialist, for a large Corporation, sent me this little temp file remover.
    You can download a copy of that program, here:
    https://app.box.com/s/0zbeqnvl4bzfe9d4qyox
    Just download it to your desktop, and run it from there. Run it often.
    I run it daily on my PC and some days it removes 3meg or more of just temp files.

    Then you can knock 27 sec's off of your boot time with this tweak:

    Here it is: (this should be done by everybody, running XP, Vista or Win-7)]
    First, run MSCONFIG.
    Then from the tabs on the upper tool bar, click on "Boot ini".
    You will see where the boot delay is set to 30 seconds.
    Change that number to just 3.

    Then to complete the job, if you have more than just one core in your CPU you should tell Windows that you do, or it will forever use just one, by default.

    To set the number of CPU cores that Windows will use.
    After setting the boot timeout to three seconds, click on the "Advanced Options..." button.
    In the new window, put a check next to /NUMPROC=

    In the little box to the right of that comment, will be the number 1, if there is also a down arrow there, click it to scroll down to the number of CPU cores that you actually have. Select that number.
    Then click OK, then APPLY and close that window.
    Now reboot, for a much faster running PC.


    I think it's already been mentioned, to seriously limit the number of programs in your Startup folder.
    You can get to that too, in MSCONFIG. It if doesn't absolutely HAVE to be running from Boot-Up, then uncheck it. That's simple. Anything that looks like a scheduler or reminder, should GO!

    I do a lot more to speed up a PC, but that gets real technical, real quick and usually takes me about two hours, or more. Scans and cleanup routines, all take time.

    Please, do as much of the above as you can, and then come back and let us know how it's going.

    Cheers Mate!
    The Doctor
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    To set the number of CPU cores that Windows will use.
    After setting the boot timeout to three seconds, click on the "Advanced Options..." button.
    In the new window, put a check next to /NUMPROC=

    In the little box to the right of that comment, will be the number 1, if there is also a down arrow there, click it to scroll down to the number of CPU cores that you actually have. Select that number.
    Then click OK, then APPLY and close that window.
    Its well known that this tweak is a myth. See:
    http://blog.tune-up.com/myth-buster/...-boot-up-time/

    Jerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
    You're kidding.......Right?
    If your PC is taking more than 30 sec's to boot up, You've got some work to do.
    or
    "Lucy, you've got some splaining to do!"

    I get called out to work on Windows 7 PC's, every once in a while, where you could read a short novel in the time it takes for the PC to boot up.
    In defense, some of those people just don't shut their PC off anymore. NOT GOOD!

    I have several cleanup programs that I run to clean out the junk. Taking out over 100,000 junk files is not at all uncommon. People probably clean their house, or sometimes even clean out the car, but never clean out their PC's. A friend, who is an IT Specialist, for a large Corporation, sent me this little temp file remover.
    You can download a copy of that program, here:
    https://app.box.com/s/0zbeqnvl4bzfe9d4qyox
    Just download it to your desktop, and run it from there. Run it often.
    I run it daily on my PC and some days it removes 3meg or more of just temp files.

    Then you can knock 27 sec's off of your boot time with this tweak:

    Here it is: (this should be done by everybody, running XP, Vista or Win-7)]
    First, run MSCONFIG.
    Then from the tabs on the upper tool bar, click on "Boot ini".
    You will see where the boot delay is set to 30 seconds.
    Change that number to just 3.

    Then to complete the job, if you have more than just one core in your CPU you should tell Windows that you do, or it will forever use just one, by default.

    To set the number of CPU cores that Windows will use.
    After setting the boot timeout to three seconds, click on the "Advanced Options..." button.
    In the new window, put a check next to /NUMPROC=

    In the little box to the right of that comment, will be the number 1, if there is also a down arrow there, click it to scroll down to the number of CPU cores that you actually have. Select that number.
    Then click OK, then APPLY and close that window.
    Now reboot, for a much faster running PC.


    I think it's already been mentioned, to seriously limit the number of programs in your Startup folder.
    You can get to that too, in MSCONFIG. It if doesn't absolutely HAVE to be running from Boot-Up, then uncheck it. That's simple. Anything that looks like a scheduler or reminder, should GO!

    I do a lot more to speed up a PC, but that gets real technical, real quick and usually takes me about two hours, or more. Scans and cleanup routines, all take time.

    Please, do as much of the above as you can, and then come back and let us know how it's going.

    Cheers Mate!
    The Doctor
    Your msconfig idea makes a lot of sense. I did it, but see any speed up on the next boot??? I'm gonna leave the changes in anyway, because it just seems like they should be set that way.

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