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    Windows XP at risk as antivirus vendors jump ship

    Another reason to consider migrating from Windows XP to a newer operating system:
    http://www.infoworld.com/t/anti-viru...mp-ship-217806

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    One might also argue that, just as the AV people drop support for XP due to its small user base, virus writers are likewise targeting XP less and, hence, XP is relatively less at risk from new viruses ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by macropod View Post
    One might also argue that, just as the AV people drop support for XP due to its small user base, virus writers are likewise targeting XP less and, hence, XP is relatively less at risk from new viruses ...
    Actually, Ive read the opposite is true. As new security holes are found in Vista, Widows 7, and Windows 8, the bad guys will use those to attack Windows XP in greater numbers since they know Microsoft isn't releasing any fixes.

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    Given the fundamental differences between Win XP and its successors, few of the exploits that apply to the latter are likely to be found in the former and, even if they are, accessing them is liable to require different code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macropod View Post
    Given the fundamental differences between Win XP and its successors, few of the exploits that apply to the latter are likely to be found in the former and, even if they are, accessing them is liable to require different code.
    Microsoft's Director for Trustworth Computing offers a different insight : http://blogs.technet.com/b/security/...port-ends.aspx
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    All of what's in the blog is true enough, but let's go back one OS generation. How many people still running Win 2000 (and earlier) do you hear of today having trouble with hackers. The same is likely to apply to XP by the time its support ceases. Bear in mind too that the good folk at MS Trustworthy Computing have reasons quite apart from security vulnerabilities to encourage users onto the latest & greatest.
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    Paul,

    You wouldn't be implying that M$ is trying to use security concerns to sell software now would you?
    May the Forces of good computing be with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macropod View Post
    All of what's in the blog is true enough, but let's go back one OS generation. How many people still running Win 2000 (and earlier) do you hear of today having trouble with hackers. The same is likely to apply to XP by the time its support ceases. Bear in mind too that the good folk at MS Trustworthy Computing have reasons quite apart from security vulnerabilities to encourage users onto the latest & greatest.
    Windows 2K was nothing similar in terms of longevity and popularity when compared to XP. Also,XP was really the OS of the big jump in internet usage and the one that brought the most security attacks, at the time, causing Microsoft to rethink it's entire approach to security. You can easily state, as well, that XP is "promised" to have the most holdovers of all Windows versions to date. XP will be appealing to hackers because of critical mass. By next year, XP will probably still represent 25%-30% share of Windows usage...
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    XP will be appealing to hackers, Rui?

    Probably less so than historically and likely to decrease. What's the point of targeting hardened XP users when there are sheep out there that have to have the latest and greatest? If you were looking for access to PCs with money attached, ie. hacking for profit, which would you target?

    Loungers should be more wary of keeping their applications updated and locked down; blindly trusting OS updates and security software simply isn't enough. Want to hack a PC with a drive -by? Use a Java exploit via IE, that'd be a good bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    XP will be appealing to hackers, Rui?

    Probably less so than historically and likely to decrease. What's the point of targeting hardened XP users when there are sheep out there that have to have the latest and greatest? If you were looking for access to PCs with money attached, ie. hacking for profit, which would you target?

    Loungers should be more wary of keeping their applications updated and locked down; blindly trusting OS updates and security software simply isn't enough. Want to hack a PC with a drive -by? Use a Java exploit via IE, that'd be a good bet.
    I meant comparatively, with Win2K, Andy. But I don't have many doubts that a high percentage of XP users and diminishing support for it, it will still be an attractive target.
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    Attractive target for a zombie in a botnet, as are all PC's - and botnets appear to be easily taken down nowadays by removing their C&C servers; I don't see XP as being increasingly attractive for anything more lucrative - no profit, no effort.

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    Already said what I wanted to say, so I will leave it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by macropod View Post
    One might also argue that, just as the AV people drop support for XP due to its small user base, virus writers are likewise targeting XP less and, hence, XP is relatively less at risk from new viruses ...
    Would make more sense, I suggest, that the bad guys would then jump all over the now more vulnerable, still using XP, machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredGeek View Post
    Paul,

    You wouldn't be implying that M$ is trying to use security concerns to sell software now would you?
    It's, really, a matter of how one 'spins' it. I have been in the IT business a while, now and dealing w/ security concerns. And I will stand firm that recent Windows OSs and browsers are more secure than past.

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    And, just what Anti-Virus vendor would that be?

    I use a whole "Package" of anti Malware programs and none of them have given any indication of "Jumping Ship". More scare tactic's by the pushers of the new MS OS's I think.

    I'm always suspicious of Self-Proclaimed "Experts" and "Specialists", telling us 'the sky is falling'.

    Sirs, maybe your sky is falling..... mine is NOT!

    Experience is truly the best teacher.

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