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    Do I really need Java?

    I just installed Win8 and it seems to install Java. Why? Do I actually -need- this for anything useful? I'd rather dump it if not.

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    I have read articles that indicate some people do not use Java by choice and they are fine with that
    I suppose it depends on which browser is being user, maybe OS and I suppose the skill level of the person doing what they are doing
    I use have used IE throughout the years with out any problems including Java
    I have helped some friends with Mozilla Firefox and Java was still needed for the games they play
    So since you have Windows 8 I would say let your Java versions stay up-to-date
    --- You can decide not to do so but I wouldn't recommend it
    Also I have a couple of friends who claim they do not have Java but they do not share how they get by without it
    --- I have also challenged them to show me how to get by without Java just with simple Pogo games and they couldn't
    Have you done a search on Do I need Java to help you decide whether or not you can in your case?

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    SunTower,

    Only if you have a program that requires it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntower View Post
    I just installed Win8 and it seems to install Java. Why? Do I actually -need- this for anything useful? I'd rather dump it if not.
    Are you sure it installed Java?

    A lot of people confuse Java with Javascript.

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    Ditto what Browni said. As I read the thread I was about to mention that when I read his post. Java and Java Script are 2 very separate and distinct things. Java Script is an integral part of Windows.
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    I would suggest that you install the latest version of Java, and that you then disable it in the browsers.

    In this way, you can benefit from Java functionality in Windows, and minimize your Java risks in the browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
    In this way, you can benefit from Java functionality in Windows, and minimize your Java risks in the browser.
    What Java functionality? I don't have it installed and I certainly don't suffer any loss of functionality within Windows.

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    I would suggest that you uninstall the Java Runtime Environment (JRE), and then see if anything which requires it objects to its absence (such as one or two components of LibreOffice or Open Office).
    It is very simple to reinstall the JRE if you actually need it.
    If you don't need it, then you have avoided software which some regard as a potential security risk, since it's often attacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Browni View Post
    What Java functionality? I don't have it installed and I certainly don't suffer any loss of functionality within Windows.
    Some programs require Java. For example, we use PeopleSoft at my job, and it is Java-based.

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    My 2 cents worth......what about the vulnerabilities that Java has, no one is mentioning this major fact. For this fact alone I don't use Java or have it installed on any of my PC's.
    Here a long list of links.......

    https://www.google.com/webhp?source=...abilities+2013

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    Here's what Woody Leonhard says about Java Script (Java in the browser):
    http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...your-browsers/

    Here's what Susan Bradley says about both Java and Java Script:
    http://windowssecrets.com/known-issu...coding-coffee/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
    Here's what Woody Leonhard says about Java Script (Java in the browser):
    http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...your-browsers/

    Here's what Susan Bradley says about both Java and Java Script:
    http://windowssecrets.com/known-issu...coding-coffee/
    Jim, just a side note, Java and Javascript have no relation whatsoever. Javascript is not Java in the browser. Javascript is present in all browsers, it's indispensable for a modern UI experience. Java may also be used in a browser (I need it to submit my tax returns!!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntower View Post
    I just installed Win8 and it seems to install Java. Why? Do I actually -need- this for anything useful? I'd rather dump it if not.
    Java doesn't "seem" to install itself, it requires user input.
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    [pedant]
    Surely on PCs the distinction is between Javascript and the Java Runtime Environment (JRE)?

    "Java" itself is just the language that the JRE happens to be written in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntower View Post
    I just installed Win8 and it seems to install Java. Why? Do I actually -need- this for anything useful? I'd rather dump it if not.
    Everything you ever wanted to ask about Java and were afraid to ask, has already been written up on the internet, somewhere. Let your browser do the walking..... Here is just one Internet entry on the Subject of What is Java?
    http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/whatis_java.xml

    Not only do you most likely need it, but you Do need to keep it up to date, like many other programs on your PC.
    I carry the very latest version of Java with me on every service call, so I can share it with my customers.

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