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    NSA vs NAT

    Can NSA get past my router with NAT on?

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    Welcome to the Lounge!

    Did the NSA 'help out' with the design of the router's chipset?


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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    Did the NSA 'help out' with the design of the router's chipset?

    Can anyone authoritatively say no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by egowing View Post
    Can NSA get past my router with NAT on?
    Hi and welcome to the Lounge,

    Hard to say whether they can or not. Theoretically, they shouldn't be able to, but after all we have read about encryption tampering, one can only wonder...
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    I would say an unequivocal Yes.....but perhaps not in the way you mean.

    An attacker might not be able to past the NAT without human interaction, but assuming for one moment that they do get in then they can most certainly can get out.

    Anyone attempting to compromise a system will go for the low hanging fruit so to speak: so think about spear phishing, drive by downloads, system and process vulnerabilities etc. Attacking the NAT and firewall will be low on the priority list in my opinion.

    An often used trick in penetration testing is to leave a compromised USB device or CD with a presentation in the car park and wait until it phones home. The results are often frightening.

    In other words it's much easier to get a compromised system to phone home than the break down the front door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by egowing View Post
    Can NSA get past my router with NAT on?
    I would always assume that they can, and hope that they can't.

    My guess is that they can, and that they will if they think they need to.

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