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    A last reprieve for the enduring Windows XP?




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    A last reprieve for the enduring Windows XP?


    By Woody Leonhard

    By now, every Windows XP user and his third cousin should know that on April 8, the clock runs out on the venerable OS.

    But recent developments might give XP users a bit of a reprieve. When and how Microsoft will blink are the open questions.

    The full text of this column is posted at windowssecrets.com/top-story/a-last-reprieve-for-the-enduring-windows-xp/ (paid content, opens in a new window/tab).

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    Doesn't surprise one bit.
    Sounds more like Microsoft "huffing and puffing" (threatening XP users), while XP users "continue using", and the users clearly aren't exactly loosing (due to their continued market share).
    Give them (MS) more time, I'm sure they'll relent on MSE too, in degrees.
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    Good article and great suggestions for Microsoft. I would gladly pay to have continued XP support, but not $200 per year.

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    i am still running TWO win98SE machines
    and plan to keep running 3-4 winxpprosp3 machines for even longer

    you really dont need ms support at this point in time
    the problems are known
    the fixes are documented

    had to buy a cheap win8 laptop to run some of the newer software and as a backup to our email system
    that was down for a week but is now improved, enhanced, and ready to go even longer with a new BIG harddisk

    but not disturbing any system that is paid for, runs well, and has my data and aps on it
    just so i can start paying monthly rental for software that wont let me keep my data locally without a hassle

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    Windows XP was a great OS despite some flaws but it's time to move on and put it out to pasture. The large FI I work for with 75,000 employees will continue to run it for several more months. I think we have a special support package. I personally made the switch to Windows 7 a year ago and love it. MS should stop using the paddles and let XP die a natural death.

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    I work for a large manufacturing facility. I think it's important to remember how many businesses have spent large sums of money on custom software that will not run on Windows 7, so we're forced to keep Windows XP, in physical and virtual computers. Some of this software cannot be updated because the company's no longer exist. To scrap the old software and move to something new is cost prohibitive. Like it or not, XP is going to be around for some time.

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    I am (supposedly) an IT Pro, and have a small computer repair business. As much as I love XP Pro, and like Win7, about 2 1/2 years ago I decided to go with Linux. I am using Linux Mint13, MATE desktop; dual booting with Win7 on a couple of machines, and XP Pro on two others. It is very rare for me to have to boot up into Windows. Linux is all FREE-the OS's, and the programs. As you can download a Linux OS, burn it to a CD, and then boot from that "Live CD", you can see what it's like without installing it, or "messing up" your computer. Try it, you'll like it.

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    Linux is the best alternative. Find some open source programmer to adapt any XP only programs to Linux. Apache provides better server support. I am surprised the number crunchers in big companies have not figured out that what they will spend on open source support teams is still cheaper than what they spend on Windows.

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    Ya, but how well does Linux run Photoshop, PSPX5, Crysis 2 and 3, The latest Tomb Raider and Call of Duty, Microsoft Office, NeroVideo 12, and on and on in category after category? Facsimiles that are more difficult to use or not as good not allowed and cross-platform...well, there just aren't enough.
    As a background OS supporting apps and servers, terrific! However, there are a plethora of very sound reasons as to why FREE in this case is not a magic word in the world of first layer consumer OSes.

    That's why I can't make the switch completely over to Win 7 from XP; Win 7 and 8 might be better OSes than XP and one might even say the same about Linux or at least some distros. However I cannot find a better platform to run all my production [and very enjoyable time-waster] programs on.

    That said, go away Microsoft! I don't think they should linger with support anymore, at this point it almost seems vindictive to keep raking them over the coals for finally trying to go cold turkey on XP in light of updates being the least important, tertiary or quateranary layer of security. If they were anywhere near as important as a hardware firewall, sound user practices and a competent antivirus layer for those hopefully ever so infrequent user lapses; well, then it would be a completely different matter to leave ~400 million users in a state of sudden update detox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrf View Post
    I am surprised the number crunchers in big companies have not figured out that what they will spend on open source support teams is still cheaper than what they spend on Windows.
    Maybe that's because it isn't...
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    Interesting article. It's nice to see I'm not the only one reluctant to move on (although my primary machine has Win 7).

    My biggest worry is what is compatible with my machines. I have a collection (6) of laptops and desktops that have sort of been retired because of speed and XP. I'd like to put them to use, like a receiver of streaming music to feed into my tuner or an electronic cookbook in the kitchen. Simple tasks for old hardware. But will Win 7Pro or Home not work, or Linux flavor A, B or C run, or not. I don't want to spend all of my spare time fussing with it. I'm fairly technically savvy, but I don't know what I don't know. Is there a tiny app that can say "Your hardware should be able to run this, this and this. It cannot run this, this and this because of hardware limitations." No 500-page dissertation, just a short paragraph or so pointing me away from unworkable upgrades.

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    Thanks for the update on my favorite OS. With a newer computer I am forced to use Windows 8, but I would have gladly continued using XP forever!

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    I think Woody's dead wrong about this. I don't believe Microsoft has backpedaled AT ALL, and I don't think there's any chance that it will "soften its XP end-of-life stance" in the remaining 8 weeks.

    Malicious Software Removal Tool updates will protect the 80% who have moved on, not the 20% who are holding on.

    "So as far as I’m concerned, XP hit the bit bucket only when Windows 7 shipped in July 2009.
    That makes XP, by my admittedly jaundiced reckoning, a sprightly four and a half years old!"

    No, four and a half years OBSOLETE. (By the same reasoning I could kid myself that my car is only a couple of years old, when in fact it's more than 10.)

    Bruce

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    Instead of Photoshop try GIMP. Instead of Office try Libre Office. Usually a Linux based program can save in a format Windows will understand. OK games can only be played in Windows but search around and alternative online games can be found. For most programs an alternative open source Linux based program can be found or built.

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    I have an Acer netbook that I bought right before they switched from XP to Win7. It is not hardware compatible to upgrade, and I use it in a machine shop to control devices (a label printer and a CNC router) that don't have Windows 7 compatible drivers. This is on a network so I can transfer CAM files from the main desktop. It was my understanding that MS would be supporting the version of XP on these netbooks longer than on other systems, as these were tailored specifically for these little niche machines. I've heard nothing about that concerning end-of-life for XP. If Microsoft expects me to toss out a nifty computer that fits my shop (goes into a tool cabinet drawer quite nicely), maybe they could also send $$$$ to upgrade all my CNC machinery as well.

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