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    Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    Oh, lovely Messenger. I've noticed that the latest version has this annoying habit of starting itself when you fire up Hotmail in IE. That's swell, but I really don't want Messenger showing up unless I ask for it to.

    Anyone figure out how to kill this ugly little guy? I have it installed for various sundry reasons but unless I want to use it, I don't want it staring at me from the system tray either.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    I really have no idea what I'm talking about here as I consider Hotmail and Messenger - well, 'a bit on the dark side' <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> , but is the Messenger Service truly a service ? - i.e. something that you can enable/disable with quick shortcut commands?

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    So far as I can tell, it's not a service per se, but an app. If you disable the messenger service it makes no difference to MSMSGS.EXE, which is what comes up.

    The problem with the Hotmail trigger (and I agree that they're from the Dark Side) is that once it loads, you can't kill it while IE is running. If there was an option to disable this 'feature' it wouldn't be such a bad thing. Grrrrrrrrrr!
    -Mark

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    Mark:

    I usually just right click the icon in notification area and select Exit from the menu. Seems to make it go bye-bye.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    Ahhhh, but you can't do that if you visit say, Hotmail, and then have any instances of IE still open. When something else is responsible for launching this wonderful (cough) little app, it stays there until that instance is gone.

    *sugh* I remember having to install IE4 and make my NT4 machine wobbly just to reap the benefits of Outlook 98, and this is the same thing.
    -Mark

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    I see. I use OE http mail for my Hotmail account. OE also starts MSM, but, I can kill the MSM task. Have not even looked at Hotmail on the web in months.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    With the new rules at Hotmail, "Have not even looked at Hotmail on the web in months", you may not have a account any more.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    I check my mail, but I use the HTTP mail option in Outlook Express instead of Web mail.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    Aha! I use HotMail only because I refuse to give out my true email address on the Internet, thanks to the spam-shoving fools out there. As such, I must use it for things like eBay, etc.

    Everyone should be aware of this though, although componentizing something is great (such as IE) because its features become available to other programs, this is forcing a messenger service to open that I a) don't want and [img]/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif[/img] have different client software to access Messenger services anyway.

    Ugh.
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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    ...and another thing. I don't like MSM messenger service popping up in the System Tray either, so I went to the System Configuration Utility, and unticked MSMSGS. But something about IE is determined that we shall have it, because now there are two instances of it listed - one with a tick and one without. I bet if I unticked it again, a third instance would appear. I dislike it because it's using system resources.

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    Re: Wonderful Windows Messenger (gag) (IE6)

    Well, interestingly, I have discovered the following - although I still don't know how to can this short of removing the program altogether (which of course is buried in the SYSOC.INF file out of reach of the average user).

    Only the XP version of Messenger insists on appearing when you check Hotmail online. Since I don't use Hotmail except on rare occasions, it seems to be no big deal. However, choice is good and I simply don't want it there unless I ask for it.

    I assume this is part of the new .NET initiative, but if that's the way things are going, I sure don't like it. Anyone else with an experience on this particular "feature" - I'd love to hear it!
    -Mark

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