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    XP has turned into a monster since it elapsed

    After a month it started doing memory dumps at shutdown. Started doing Scan Disk at startup lately too! It did not let me escape from either.

    The power supply and hard drive are less than a year old! I disabled the internet most of the time now as I have a Windows 7 machine for that. I have also added MalewareBytes Anti-Exploit.

    Seems like it has either been invaded or M$ is killing it for me!

    If you have any ideas of how to fix this stuff please let me know.

    Thanks all

    Ted

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    Yes, definite ideas: full format and clean install.
    Then make certain you have made a drive image.
    DRIVE IMAGING
    Invest a little time and energy in a well thought out BACKUP regimen and you will have minimal down time, and headache.

    Windows 8.1, 64 bit
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    GPU: Nvidia GTX 580*Memory: Corsair 12 GB, 4x3@1600*PSU: Corsair HX1000*Hard drives: REVO X2 160GB*OCZ VERT X3 120GB*5 mechanical storage drives (12 TB) total.

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    That would involve downloading all of those UPDATES no longer available wouldn't it?

    I have tried creating a new Page File by changing it to zero, rebooting and then back to 3000 mb for 2 G of memory.
    (memory * 1.5 according to M$) So far so good...

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    All updates that have been issued are still available, at least for now, and probably for a couple of years. There just aren't going to be more updates going forward.

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    I would suggest using Belarc Advisor for keeping track of MS updates, patches, bandaids etc.

    Example:

    Missing Microsoft Security Hotfixes [Back to Top]

    All required security hotfixes (using the 06/10/2014 Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary) have been installed.

    Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top]
    .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2
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    .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2
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    .NET Framework 3.5 SP1
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    .NET Framework 4 Client Profile
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    SP4 (continued)
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    .NET Framework 4 Extended
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    Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable - 10.0.40219
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    SP0
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    Windows Media Player
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    BTW this XP SP3 machine has exhibited no such odd behavior (YET?)

    Regards, PP
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    Yes, I have checked it with Belarc Advisor for years now. I'm running XP Pro on the machine acting up.

    Meanwhile my Windows 7 machine seems to have a USB problem. After running a few days, the USB devices quit working properly. I even lost the mouse once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burger2227 View Post
    Yes, I have checked it with Belarc Advisor for years now. I'm running XP Pro on the machine acting up.

    Meanwhile my Windows 7 machine seems to have a USB problem. After running a few days, the USB devices quit working properly. I even lost the mouse once.
    Downloading your Chipset/Video drivers should sort that - but if it's AMD, the latest Win 7 Video drivers could give you a pink hue.

    If that's the case but it resolves the USB problem and you are unable to remove the hue from the greyscale in CCC, you can roll back the driver which will leave your USB ports okay but will get rid of the hue - although you may need to troubleshoot any devices in Devices and Printers for Windows to find any drivers for you.

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    I found some chipsets, but half were not the right ones at Dell. I got one to update 2 different ways...

    They don't have anything for USB specifically except USB3 which I don't have.

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    burger2227,
    Check to see if you have installed MS patch 2862330. The wonderful Susan Bradley reports that it is the source of ongoing USB issues and has been for a while. It is in her WinPatches chart with a HOLD status. It affected my Win7 'puter for a while (drove me absolutely crazy trying to fix until I found out about patch) so I loaded a previous image and it vanished along with USB problems. Hope that helps. - Brian (Australia).
    Last edited by BrianDH; 2014-06-26 at 11:40. Reason: additional info input
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    The Chipset drivers will include those for the USB ports when there aren't any listed separately.

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    KB2862330 is listed as installed. I've not had any blue screen problems. Just USB device problems.

    I tried to view a camera with a video converter called Easy Cap, but the video kept blinking and triggering the software motion alert which sent an email every time. I tried reconnecting it and it quit working altogether so I tried it in my XP without a problem. When I moved the mouse transceiver to another USB port, it quit working too.

    Back to the XP machine, I'm going to assume the worst and try to fix the Registry!
    I tried a couple of Registry fixers and will let you know how that works out. One found over 2,000 errors.
    It automatically saves all changes so that I can restore it in case I run into problems.
    Last edited by burger2227; 2014-06-26 at 13:56.

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    I would recommend running PC Pitstop's online health check tool "Overdrive" before making any more changes. You can register (free) and save your test results, or simply run the tests anonymously.

    http://www.pcpitstop.com/betapit/

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    PS Pitstop is crap! First it tells me about Mozilla and Neptune browsers, but doesn't say anything about Chrome. So I use IE, sign in AGAIN and then it keeps trying to run an Active X component. Then it stops doing anything. FORGET THAT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by burger2227 View Post
    PS Pitstop is crap! First it tells me about Mozilla and Neptune browsers, but doesn't say anything about Chrome. So I use IE, sign in AGAIN and then it keeps trying to run an Active X component. Then it stops doing anything. FORGET THAT!
    I have used PC Pitstop for years on my computers, and on client computers, with no ill effects.

    True, you do need to use Internet Explorer, and it does want to install its own ActiveX components to run the tests. Again, I have used it for years and have never had an issue with their ActiveX components.

    Actually, as I recall, Windows Secrets own Fred Langa was instrumental in developing the original health check tool called "WinTune", that "Overdrive" was based on.

    You can continue trying this and that and risk bricking your XP machine, or get useful information to help you troubleshoot...your call.

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    See if Dell PC Diagnostics will find anything - much better and safer than registry cleaners or tune up programs.

    If that cleaner found 2,000 registry errors, then open a command prompt (as an administrator on Win 7) and run a chkdsk /f and I would only trust CCleaner if I were to check the registry.
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