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    Question Windows 8.1 permissions

    I have Windows 8.1.1 and am administrator but it isn't letting me in to make changes to application data and a couple of others. This isn't Windows Pro, but there shouldn't be any reason for being blocked. I have an Outlook account to log in on. I knew how to do this on XP but baffled here now
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    Went into programs to see what downloads were there and it said no downloads installed. Huh? I had checked to show downloads. So what happened here does anyone have a guess on this.
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    You must remember that even though your user account is a member of the administrators group that does not give you unfettered access to the system. You still must have permissions to access or change folders or files which other built-in accounts "own". Also, certain folder such as "Application Data" & others are now just Junction point (i.e. links to the actual folders). As such they are there for compatibility purposes so older programs will still function properly. You do not have access to them.

    See http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...l=1#post770079 for a document created by "BATcher" one of our Moderators which explains much of the changed user data structure.

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    I will try that process listed and see how it goes tomorrow. Any ideas why my updates wouldn't show up?
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    I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean in Control Panel - Programs and Features? Please post a screenshot.

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    When I was still Beta Testing Windows 8, I was introduced to a very helpful program called "Grant Admin Full Control".

    I tried it, I loved it and now I won't set up any Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 PC without running it right after the basic setup is complete.

    It installs a routine in your Right Click Context Menu, so you can point to any file or folder, right click on it and then click on 'Grant Admin Full Control' and you become the OWNER of that file or folder.

    When I've run that on my own Windows 7 or 8 PC's, I've taken control of folders that I think I'll want to work with.
    I totally abhor that old "You don't have permission...." thing that started with XP. That seems to work a treat, in every folder except the root directory of C:.

    I also lower the Permission Level in UAC to it's lowest level.
    It's MY computer and I really hate any OS telling me I don't have permission to do something that I know needs doing. G.A.F.C. takes care of that and helps me better control my blood pressure.

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    @DrWho, Isn't this "Grant Admin Full Control" the same as the "Take Ownership" registry tweak?

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    Dr. Who, where do i find that program "Grant Admin Full Control". I feel the same way, it's my computer and I am the only way that is going to mess with any changes.

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    Just be sure you know what you are doing. I've seen more than one computer messed up by a user deleting a key OS file.

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    Remember that your original question about "application data" has nothing to do with permissions. It has to do with a changed file structure as I said in post 3.

    IMO, you are better off using the system for at least a month before deciding about changes. I've run Windows Vista, 7, 8, & 8.1 (more than one SKU of each version) since they were released all with UAC set to "notify". I use Windows 8.1 primarily both @ work & home just about all day every day but still use Windows 7 occasionally @ work. I may have taken ownership with Vista and Windows 7 but I've never felt the need to take ownership of anything with Windows 8 or 8.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhawk55 View Post
    @DrWho, Isn't this "Grant Admin Full Control" the same as the "Take Ownership" registry tweak?
    Well, it's similar, but the script is much larger, so it actually does more. I call it "Take Ownership On Steroids" .

    If I have to run one or the other, I want to run the most powerful one. They are both FREE. Eh?
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