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    Transferring Eudora data files

    Situation #1:

    My present system is Windows XP with Eudora 7.1.0.9. I will be purchasing a new computer with Windows 7 Professional and will be installing Eudora 7.1.0.9 in it. Can I simply copy/paste all the Eudora data files and folders from my old system into the new data file? Or are there only certain files which can be copy/pasted?

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    My wife’s present system is Windows XP with Eudora 5.2.1. I will be purchasing a new computer for her with Windows 7 Professional and would like to install Eudora 7.1.0.9 in it. Can I simply copy/paste all the Eudora files from her 5.2.1 system into the new Eudora 7.1.0.9 data folder? Or, are there only certain files which can be copy/pasted? I still have the old 5.2.1 installation files, so I could install that instead of 7.1 if the above copy/paste approach would not work.

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    Pages found by Google Search have links on how to Export then Import.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=tran...76.xkr-Rn8Jwjw

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    Thanks for the reply. Lots of good info there, but the question of moving 5.2 files into the 7.1 data folder is still unanswered. As far as 7.1 goes, it looks as though simply copying all the data files form one to the other will work.

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    I use MozBackup. It does everything for you.

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    [Edit] Please ignore my obviously incorrect / off topic post. Must have been pre-holiday merryment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdculp View Post
    Situation #2:

    My wife’s present system is Windows XP with Eudora 5.2.1. I will be purchasing a new computer for her with Windows 7 Professional and would like to install Eudora 7.1.0.9 in it. Can I simply copy/paste all the Eudora files from her 5.2.1 system into the new Eudora 7.1.0.9 data folder? Or, are there only certain files which can be copy/pasted? I still have the old 5.2.1 installation files, so I could install that instead of 7.1 if the above copy/paste approach would not work.
    As others have noted, copying the files over works fine--I'm running Eudora 7.1.0.9 on 2 Windows 7 Pro machines with no problems, one is even an x64. Be sure to get the .ini and other files too! I first installed it on the new machine, then simply moved the *entire* Eudora folder under Program Files on the old system over to the applicable Program Files folder on the new one since the versions were the same. The reg code is freely available now, but if it was applied on the old machine, it would come over with the copy. Did for me anyway.

    But for your wife's machine, is there any reason why you can't just upgrade her machine right now to 7.1.0.9 before upgrading? I imagine the copy/paste will work fine for that version too, given how much older it is, but since we KNOW that the newer version will transfer easily, this might avoid any potential issues with that much older version. Plus 7.1.0.9 is SO much nicer

    Cheers!

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    I agree! Simply move all your Eudora files to the new machine or OS and run the 7.1.0.9 installer. If your email service requires a particular port now or in the future go to the "extrastuff" folder in Program Files/Qualcomm/Eudora. Copy "extrastuff" and paste it in the Eudora folder. It will add the necessary options to the Tools/Options section to set custom ports.
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    I also am using Eudora 7.1.0.9, the paid version under Penn State's site license. It is the latest version that Qualcom supported. From a previous comouter I copied the program files manually into "C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora" . The working files are located in C:\mail, and I getat them by using a shortcut on my desktop with the Target as "C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe" "C:\mail" , and Start in as "C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora". This trick, to separate the data files from the progam file, was shown to me some years ago by one of Penn State's senior consultants, since deceased.
    I am presently running an old desktop computer under Windows XP SP3. I plan to move into a newer laptop running Windows 7 64 bit, and to copy the files from one to the other via an external hard drive.
    I am not sure where the data files are normally located within Eudora, but if you find them you might try this same trick. I think that the 5.2.1 data files can be read by 7.1.0.9 once they have been separated out.
    It occurs to me that you could have more than one set of data files, accessed by different shortcuts. It might be worth a try.
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    My greatest concern is this: Her old machine has 5.2. If I install 7.1 in the new machine and then copy/paste all the 5.2 data files into the 7.1 data folder, what about the compatibility issue? Especially the ini file? I suppose toc and mbx files would be ok, but there others that I just don't know about.

    What I was thinking is that I could install 5.2 in the new machine, transfer the files and then install 7.1. Can I install 7.1 on top of 5.2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdculp View Post
    My greatest concern is this: Her old machine has 5.2. If I install 7.1 in the new machine and then copy/paste all the 5.2 data files into the 7.1 data folder, what about the compatibility issue? Especially the ini file? I suppose toc and mbx files would be ok, but there others that I just don't know about.

    What I was thinking is that I could install 5.2 in the new machine, transfer the files and then install 7.1. Can I install 7.1 on top of 5.2?
    There is nothing to lose by trying (except perhaps a little time). Make sure that you keep the 5.2 files backed up and available in case the transfer doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    I use MozBackup. It does everything for you.

    cheers, Paul
    Does MozBackup work with Eudora? The Web page doesn't list it. I've installed it on computers with both Thunderbird and Eudora installed, and it doesn't offer to back up Eudora files.

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    I suggest backing up (i.e., copying) the Eudora 5.2 folder first to someplace like the desktop. Then install 7.1X in a new folder, copy over all the files that have a date newer than the install date of 5.2. Then when the new version is working to your satisfaction, uninstall the 5.2 version. Yes, it's longer, but you know that you haven't overwritten something important if you have to go back. Your only problem (it happens to me every time I reinstalled Eudora 7.1) may be that Windows 7 doesn't think that you have an email program.

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    If you copy the entire 5.2 PF folder somewhere safe, as noted, then you have nothing to lose by simply trying the 7x update It's been forever since I had 5.2 but I don't remember having to recreate all my stuff.

    Also, since you are a Eudora afficianado like me you might want to subscribe to a Eudora email list that is still very much active. You can subscribe here: http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/index.html While Eudora support is LONG gone, Katrina Knight, probably the single most knowledgable person out there today where Eudora is concerned, is a regular contributor.

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    Glad I'm not the only die-hard Eudora user out there. :
    The files you need in your "mail directory" (the Target for the shortcut, for example, "C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe" "D:\Eudora Mail" where the mail is actually being stored on a different drive - more commonly, it will point to your C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora for Windows 7 and 8 or C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\Qualcomm\Eudora in XP) are the following:

    1) Anything ending in .mbx or .toc - you should have a corresponding mailboxname.toc for every mailboxname.mbx. If you don't, then Eudora will create a new .toc for any unpaired .mbx, which means you'll lose the read/unread/replied/forwarded information for the messages therein. These are the same from Eudora 5.x up to the last 7.1.0.9.

    2)Any folder ending in .fol -- if you look inside the folder, you will see the .mbx and .toc files for the mailboxes within.

    NOTE: 1) and 2) are for POP mail or local folders. If you are using IMAP, then there will be a folder called IMAP and inside there will be folders for each account, including the first one which was called Dominant.

    3)Your attachments folder -- this will take the longest time to copy. I don't recall the default name Eudora uses, but it's something like Attach or Attachments. Note, *before* you start Eudora on the new computer, edit the Eudora.ini file in Notepad to change the attachment location to where it should be. Otherwise, any new mail with attachments you receive might go in the wrong place (if different from the previous computer). You can move them, but it's easier to make sure they go to the right place from the get-go.

    4)The address book: NNdbase.nnt and NNdbase.toc -- In Eudora 5.x, the NNdabase has a different extension (I forgot what it is). The .nnt was to make it harder for viruses to find the address book.

    5)The Nickname folder -- this contains any additional address books if you made them (personal.nnt and personal.toc, for example) and the whitelist folder (I named mine Whitelist, to make it obvious) if you created one for the Junk filter.

    6)RCPdbase.txt -- the list of people on your Recipient List

    7)The folder called Embedded -- this is where embedded images in email are placed (images in HTML messages)

    8)Your filters, filter.pce -- these are your filters. If you didn't set up any, don't worry about it, Eudora will create a new one if you don't copy the file. There is a folder called Filters, but it's always been empty for me, and I use filters a lot. Eudora will create a new one if you don't copy it over.

    9)The spool folder -- if you use POP and you leave mail on server, this is where the lmos.dat file is that tells Eudora the last email you actually downloaded. If you don't want duplicates, copy this folder over. IMAP also puts folders in here for each account. If Eudora ever gets horked and keeps crashing, this is a good place to look for a somerandomcharacters.RCV file. Delete that and try again.

    10)The Plugins folder. You don't want to have to go locate them again, especially if you have third-party plugins.

    11)The Sigs folder -- If you used Signatures. If not, you don't need to copy it over.

    12)The Stationery folder -- If you used Stationery. If not, you don't need to copy it over.

    13)Eudora.ini file -- if you don't don't copy this over, Eudora will make a new one and you'll have to set up the account and where the attachments are saved again. If you saved your password and don't remember what it is, you absolutely must copy this file over.

    14)RegCode.dat -- if you have the purchased version. Otherwise, you can enter your name and code again when you install Eudora.

    15)The following are optional. They will be recreated (and blank) the first time you start up Eudora:

    descmap.pce -- this is how you have the Windows set up in Eudora; if your windows get screwed up (something refuses to dock, for example), deleting this and letting Eudora recreate it on startup is a good way to fix it.

    History.lst -- this is the drop-down list of recently-used addresses. If you have an annoying wrong address in this list (which you will if you mis-typed and sent a wrong address), exit Eudora, edit this file in Notepad to get rid of addresses you don't want, save it, then restart Eudora.

    DsQuery.list -- list of recently-searched names in Finger or LDAP, if you have it set up. Personally, I've never felt a need to copy this over.

    LinkHistroy.dat -- list of links you've followed from within emails

    Folders:
    EudPriv -- this is where ads are stored, if you have the free version - no need to copy this over
    icons
    LinkHistory
    recover
    SavedSearches -- you only need this if you have save searches (email searches)
    Search -- recent searches you have done (email searches)

    The rest of the files you don't really need to copy over.

    -Janet

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    Since Eudora 7.1 is long gone, can those of us who use the free version "borrow" a code so that we can get rid of the smaller window that displayed ads? My laptop has a 12" diagonal screen and that window covers a large chunk of real estate.

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    There are several codes floating around on the internet. I found one some time ago, but a quick google search for Eudora registration code brings up some others. The first search result from wustl.edu has a different code from the one I use, but should hopefully also work.

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