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    New System Build; did I waste money on a SSD for swapfile

    New System Build; did I waste money on a SSD for swapfile??


    -----------------budget--------- actual
    cpu----------- 300------------ 300 Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz
    M/B---------- 200------------- 160 Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H
    SSD-------- 150------------- 170 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5"
    Ram-------- 190------------- 190 CMZ16GX3M2A2133C10
    P/S---------- 139------------- 110 EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 220-G2-0750-XR
    case-------- 150------------- 50 Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3
    GPU-------- 150------------- 120 GIGABYTE GV-R726XOC-2GD Radeon R7 260X 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5
    Swap File SSD --50-------------- 50
    8 shipping

    totals 1329 1158
    combo---- -40 Discounts & rebates
    mb -20
    ps -20
    case -5
    1073


    Well that started out nicely formatted but noway to line up columns, spaces get deleted and tabs ignored. HTML not working for me.(ok dashes did it!!) Oh Well,Any way I splurged on a very good CPU and stayed under budget but I am wondering if the SSD for a Swap drive makes sense??


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    You bought a SSD for swapfile, does that mean you have two SSDs?
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    Swapfile was last used on Windows ME/Millenium Edition, is the paging file since WinXP or also known as Virtual Memory.

    You may not have 'wasted' it as you can also use the 2nd drive for file storage. The paging file being on a second HDD [not a second partition on the same HDD as the OS] has given me noticeable performance improvement. I've always use a 2nd HDD on WinXP, WinVista and Win7, will put one on my Win8.1 when I next open it for cleaning.
    Last edited by Berton; 2014-08-31 at 18:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berton View Post
    Swapfile was last used on Windows ME/Millenium Edition, is the paging file since WinXP or also known as Virtual Memory.
    Interesting. I have both a pagefile.sys & a swapfile.sys on my Windows 8.0 system!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browni View Post
    Interesting. I have both a pagefile.sys & a swapfile.sys on my Windows 8.0 system!
    The swapfile is new with Windows 8. Here is what it is good for: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/a...swap-file.aspx

    Here is a reasonable explanation of the purpose of pagefile.sys and swapfile.sys.
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    Interesting. I have both a pagefile.sys & a swapfile.sys on my Windows 8.0 system!
    Double interesting, I don't have the swapfile.sys file on either my Win8.1 Pro Desktop or Notebook. I did some looking and found this statement on http://superuser.com/questions/51214...s-on-windows-8
    The swapfile.sys is a special pagefile. for the new Windows Store apps. You can get rid of it if you disable the normal pagefile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruirib View Post
    The swapfile is new with Windows 8. Here is what it is good for: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/a...swap-file.aspx

    Here is a reasonable explanation of the purpose of pagefile.sys and swapfile.sys.
    Beat me to it Rui, I just came back to post the link you found

    PS your 1st link doesn't work, it has an extra ' in the URI.
    Last edited by Browni; 2014-08-31 at 19:58. Reason: Fix link

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    Quote Originally Posted by Browni View Post
    Beat me to it Rui, I just came back to post the link you found

    PS your 1st link doesn't work, it has an extra ' in the URI.
    Thanks for the heads up. I have cleaned up the link now .
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    New System Build; did I waste money on a SSD for swapfile??

    Any way I splurged on a very good CPU and stayed under budget but I am wondering if the SSD for a Swap drive makes sense??


    That doesn't make ANY sense to me and probably never will.

    [without having looked at or considered your current hardware]

    You could have invested in decent memory on a board capable of clocking it properly.
    Then have a capable SSD drive as the primary and have it placed on the SATA III controller.

    It sound to me like your factoring of a "swap drive" is a bit too prominent, and that
    hardware decisions have been compromised as a result of this thinking.

    Unless you are dealing with a very weak system, there should be no way that a swap or page file should be
    the primary focus in any calculus.
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    Wavy,

    What are you trying to achieve?

    I looked up the memory you have ordered and that is 16GB, you could probably run most programs without a swapfile in that.

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    You bought a SSD for swapfile, does that mean you have two SSDs?
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    Yup I didn't add that to the list. SanDisk Extreme II SDSSDXP-120G-G25 2.5" 120GB (~$65) I was just going to do a 64 Gig but this was only 15 more. I up sold MYSELF
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruirib View Post
    The swapfile is new with Windows 8. Here is what it is good for: http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/a...swap-file.aspx
    Oh boy more metro muck.
    I meant Pagefile, spent too much time trying to figure out Linux..
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    The second SSD was not the primary focus but kind of an after thought thrown in the mix; new x87 MB, 16 Gigs fast Ram, Fast SSD for Boot, Fair GPU (not a gamer, just wanted something clocking fast with new directx support , i was considering just the onboard GPU, but what the heck) topped of w/ a 4GHz 4 core i7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Browni View Post
    What are you trying to achieve?

    I looked up the memory you have ordered and that is 16GB, you could probably run most programs without a swapfile in that.
    Welllll just a thought at purchase time. Logic?? was the pagefile has got to be SOMEWHERE. If on the primary and pricier Boot SSD then that will get thrashed all the time (ok maybe not with 16 Gigs of Ram, I don't know). If the Pagefile is on a cheaper drive I don't care so much about it aging rapidly.
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    Just another thought; looking at the whole package it seems like a lot of money. I usually go cheap, however systems seem to last me 5 years (not including that used xt box that only 'lasted 2'), with the higher CPU maybe I'll get more than average. Moore's Law be D*(&)ed
    And that first 486 cost 2 1/2 times as much....

    Last edited by wavy; 2014-09-01 at 00:30.
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