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    Passwords

    I have been reviewing the Windows 8 Stickys as well as some additional references when possible
    However I still need help understanding Windows 8 passwords and I suppose the same applies to Windows 8.1
    I don't have Windows 8 myself but I want to be able to help out the volunteers I volunteer with as some of them are calling me to help them set up their computers
    So if I understand it correctly, when setting up a Windows 8/8.1 computer a user will normally create their logon password
    --- Following that a Microsoft or non-Microsoft account also needs to be created
    So each user has to set up 2 different password accounts and the non-Microsoft or Microsoft account don't need to be accessed unless needed
    --- Is this the case?

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    The Microsoft Account Password is necessarily only for App Store purchases/downloads and synching across devices. Windows 8 can be installed using a local account, and the OS is fully functional using a local account (other than the Store and device synch, if wanted/needed).

    I also think that it's advisable to use a Normal User account for everything other than routine maintenance/program installations. I have an account setup as a member of the Administrators group for those things, and that is the password I use when I invoke "Run as administrator" for a utility or other necessity. I run the majority of the time using a Normal User account.

    So that's 3 accounts.
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    Having just helped an organization setup an 8.1 system, the OneDrive integration consideration during setup would lead me to say go with the Microsoft account first. When 8.1 is up and running on the Microsoft account, then create a local account and switch over if desired.

    Only one Microsoft account for all users is absolutely necessary to get and use apps from the Store; each user would sign into the store from their user account using the Microsoft account credentials.

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    Why do you need a store account? My Windows 8 box does everything I need using the "old" model - go to the web and download the program you require, then install it. My backup software copies everything to my external USB disk and I don't have to worry about anything.

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    Why do you need a store account?
    To use The Store and/or synch across devices.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    My Windows 8 box does everything I need using the "old" model
    The OP isn't about your box. Some folks do use The Store (Store Apps can only be downloaded through The Store - not directly off the web), and some folks do want to synch across devices. A Microsoft account is necessary for these activities.

    I don't use The Store, nor synch across devices, but the OP isn't about me, either.
    Create a fresh drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbearren View Post
    I don't use The Store, nor synch across devices, but the OP isn't about me, either.
    And that's why I appreciate your continuing knowledgeable contributions to this forum.

    Rich

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    I must remember to prefix those posts with "rhetorical question ahead".

    cheers, Paul

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    I like the idea of setting up both a Microsoft account as well as a non-Microsoft account
    If someone wants a Microsoft account or prefers a non-Microsoft account those make a decision pretty easy
    If someone doesn't want a Microsoft account; they won't get one
    At least it'll look like what I know what I'm doing when I set them up
    Just like everything else, the clumsiest time is in the first few set-ups but I'm sure after that I'll be able to go along pretty smoothly

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