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    LastPass tip

    I have used LastPass (free) for some time now, and find it to be worth every penny I paid for it. It has the most counter-intuitive user interface I have ever seen. When I have searched LP for help, I found very poorly written documentation. Oh, everything is pretty much there. But the price for using LP may be a lot of time spent in extended head scratching.

    I see posts by users wanting to back up their passwords, covering themselves from no internet or possible LP demise. To my surprise, I have yet to see my solution posted, using TrueCrypt. Yes yes, I know that they have gone away, but I can not find any verifiable record of anyone ever hacking into it. Sure, our federal government spends zillions of our dollars to violate any privacy from it that we might want. However, my worry concerns the sophisticated hacker, and from what I read in WindowsSecrets, TrueCrypt gives that protection. I trust WSN to tell me if TrueCrypt is ever successfully hacked.

    I have LastPass export a .csv file directly into an open TrueCrypt "drive" for safekeeping (Tools/Advanced Tools/Export To/LastPass CSV File). If you download it to your desktop, then copy into TrueCrypt, the "deleted" desktop file lives on until it happens to be overwritten at some later time. Should you desire cleaning up after yourself, I recommend Microsoft's SDelete. (technet.microsoft(dot)com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx). It installs as a choice on your context menu showing "Delete" with a red "X" prefix.

    Stay safe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Spafford View Post
    I have used LastPass (free) for some time now, and find it to be worth every penny I paid for it. It has the most counter-intuitive user interface I have ever seen. When I have searched LP for help, I found very poorly written documentation. Oh, everything is pretty much there. But the price for using LP may be a lot of time spent in extended head scratching.

    I see posts by users wanting to back up their passwords, covering themselves from no internet or possible LP demise. To my surprise, I have yet to see my solution posted, using TrueCrypt. Yes yes, I know that they have gone away, but I can not find any verifiable record of anyone ever hacking into it. Sure, our federal government spends zillions of our dollars to violate any privacy from it that we might want. However, my worry concerns the sophisticated hacker, and from what I read in WindowsSecrets, TrueCrypt gives that protection. I trust WSN to tell me if TrueCrypt is ever successfully hacked.

    I have LastPass export a .csv file directly into an open TrueCrypt "drive" for safekeeping (Tools/Advanced Tools/Export To/LastPass CSV File). If you download it to your desktop, then copy into TrueCrypt, the "deleted" desktop file lives on until it happens to be overwritten at some later time. Should you desire cleaning up after yourself, I recommend Microsoft's SDelete. (technet.microsoft(dot)com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx). It installs as a choice on your context menu showing "Delete" with a red "X" prefix.

    Stay safe!
    I disagree with your opinion and I find it even a little bit contradictory. How can LastPass UI be counter-intuitive, but everything is pretty much there? I find the UI good enough.

    Instead of using TrueCrypt, I simply encrypt the exported password file using Winzip with AES 256-bit encryption. It's simpler and easier to achieve. 7zip, which also supports AES 256-bit encryption can also be used, instead of Winzip.
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    Thanks. Great idea using 7-zip. A lot less messing around than TrueCrypt.

    There's nothing contradictory about a volume containing all needed information, but having it organized in such a way that finding your answer is very nearly impossible. The U.S. Tax documentation comes to mind. I have seen much technical documentation which fits this description perfectly. I have known many technical specialists with deep knowledge. I have met many talented writers, who can finely organize what they have to say. But I have met very, very few who have both talents. I have enormous respect for the few who are able to keep a foot planted in both worlds.

    Or perhaps what seems obvious and intuitive to someone who has written 10,340 technical posts is a bit more obscure to one who has penned only 56 Perhaps I just need more LP RFM! There's probably just a few of us geezers left who once ran computers having only vacuum tubes. I'll get the hang of this PC thingy soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Spafford View Post
    Thanks. Great idea using 7-zip. A lot less messing around than TrueCrypt.

    There's nothing contradictory about a volume containing all needed information, but having it organized in such a way that finding your answer is very nearly impossible. The U.S. Tax documentation comes to mind. I have seen much technical documentation which fits this description perfectly. I have known many technical specialists with deep knowledge. I have met many talented writers, who can finely organize what they have to say. But I have met very, very few who have both talents. I have enormous respect for the few who are able to keep a foot planted in both worlds.

    Or perhaps what seems obvious and intuitive to someone who has written 10,340 technical posts is a bit more obscure to one who has penned only 56 Perhaps I just need more LP RFM! There's probably just a few of us geezers left who once ran computers having only vacuum tubes. I'll get the hang of this PC thingy soon!
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    I started using LastPass more or less 2 years ago. I found it rather well thought out, especially regarding the ways to provide you with your login details to of the specific site you are visiting. It is very rare LP not finding the login form and having trouble allowing access to your login data in just a click or two. When that is not possible, there are still options to offer an assisted copy of username and password.

    Other functionality is also available and there just a few paths to get it. There are just a few options and I will confess that they aren't the worst I have seen. However, I will grant that our experiences affect greatly our perceptions of what is intuitive and what is not.

    I am sure you will do fine with LP, but there is always the Lounge to resort to, in case of difficulties .
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    Anyway, I tried KeePass within FF, and ended up removing it.
    Maybe I should try LastPass, it seems to be in the top 5 choices.
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    What didn't you like about KeePass?

    cheers, Paul

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    Personally I found Keepass to be clunky in use, especially compared to Lastpass and just couldn't get the hang of it. I also tried Roboform, which seemed better than KP but despite claiming it was free on Android, turned out it was only a trial. LP by contrast was upfront about it costing on Android. I will probably pay for LP to get the Android version.

    You will probably get the impression from this and another post, I don't like products which either imply they are free when they're not, or don't tell you the cost until the end of a trial period.

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    At least KeePass is free.

    cheers, Paul

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    LastPass is free, but for using it on mobile devices. Then it costs $1 / month.

    Some things just cost a bit of money, others the cost is paid in some other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruirib View Post
    I disagree with your opinion and I find it even a little bit contradictory. How can LastPass UI be counter-intuitive, but everything is pretty much there? I find the UI good enough.

    Instead of using TrueCrypt, I simply encrypt the exported password file using Winzip with AES 256-bit encryption. It's simpler and easier to achieve. 7zip, which also supports AES 256-bit encryption can also be used, instead of Winzip.
    Maybe what I do is overkill but I do a combination of this by saving a LastPass encrypted copy on my computer and a non encrypted csv file on a TrueCrypt USB drive. They are not always up-to-date but any backup is usually better than none.

    I also keep a LastPass executable on the non encrypted part of the TrueCrypt USB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussB View Post
    Maybe what I do is overkill but I do a combination of this by saving a LastPass encrypted copy on my computer and a non encrypted csv file on a TrueCrypt USB drive. They are not always up-to-date but any backup is usually better than none.

    I also keep a LastPass executable on the non encrypted part of the TrueCrypt USB.
    Each one of us does whatever makes us feel comfortable. It's always better to overdo it than to do nothing about it .
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