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    Using Auslogics Defrag

    I have been using Auslogics DeFrag for last 3 or 4 years and have had no trouble. I checked for update today and found out that there was an upgrade etc.

    1st thing noticed was a bright green Download bar to click on and a grayed out one that when read carefully was just download the update, other one was download with something that was gonna check out my PC.

    Got through that and then when I did the install and clicked on the I Agree button and next window was asking if I wanted regular or custom install but the printing on this was a # 5 size font could hardly read it. When reading the fine printing there were 3 different things it wanted to install with the DeFrag app. I unchecked them and finished the install but was a tad angry on the very small print trickery.

    That being said I do believe I'm gonna uninstall and just use Windows Defrag Can I assume it will do a decent job or not.

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    From what I've read on this forum and in other articles, windows Defrag has gotten much better from win 7 forward. I certainly wouldn't download Auslogics if they are adding unneeded programs to the download and trying to hide them. Even CNET has gotten a bit flaky with downloads.
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    FWIW, you don't need external defragmentation programs, Windows does a perfectly good job.

    cheers, Paul

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    If you hunt through the various Microsoft-defined Scheduled Tasks, you will find one called Defrag, which causes the defragmentation of local hard drives at 01:00 every Wednesday morning, or such later time as the computer is turned on, while the computer is idle.
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    The Auslogics software comes with several PUPs. Choosing the custom option allows you to bypass them. PUPS are bundled by almost every free download site, including the software's home sites. Even major players like Adobe are doing it. Installing Unchecky is the best way to fight back at this time.

    http://unchecky.com/

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    As others have already stated, the built-in defrag routine from W7 onwards is fine, unless you have a very low % of free space on your drive(s). The answer to that is to free up space, 25%+ free space = optimum performance and ease of defrag optimisation.

    3rd party defrag tools can cause other issues; twice I've come across BSODs at boot time that were down to the involvement of (different) defrag softwares.

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    Note that if you have an SSD, Windows Defrag is replaced by TRIM automatically in W7/8 as frequent defragging of an SSD is unnecessary and was thought to shorten the life of the drive. Recent wisdom is that SSDs are more robust than first thought and an occasional defrag to re-order small file fragments may be beneficial, although it wont actually increase speed.

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    When I had XP I used Raxco's PerfectDisk, but on upgrading to Win7 I ditched it, because PerfectDisk was becoming bloated and I think the Win7 defragger is good enough. I don't use the scheduler, I just do a manual "analyze" once a week or so, and only run the actual defrag if the level is approaching 10%, as advised in the "Tell me more". I don't have an SSD.

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    Hi,
    I remember Auslogic Defrag biting me a couple of years ago, so I stopped using it. I now use I-Obit Smart Defrag 4 on my HDD's, and I-Obit Advanced System Care 8 to optimize my SSD. I use the free versions, and was able to see the unwanted freeware that came with it before it could install. Both report working fine, and my P C ain't broke, or stalled, so I reckon they do work. Will consider getting the paid versions when I get a job !

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    Well again it's not the idea that they had stuff on there to uncheck etc. But they dropped the size of the fonts so they were basically unreadable. I'm sorry that is just too sneaky. I'm just sayin.....

    What is "unchecky"

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    The built-in Win 7 defrag utility does a fine job. If you want to use a 3rd party defrag utility, you can try Defraggler from Piriform (the same company who created CCleaner). I use it occasionally and I have not run into any problems. They have a free and paid version and you can download from Piriform or Filehippo and they do not have any crapware attached. I use the free version and it does a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brightest Bulb View Post
    What is "unchecky"
    http://unchecky.com/
    Tired of unchecking unrelated offers while installing software?

    Have you ever felt, while installing software, that the installer tries to push additional unwanted programs at all cost? Ever missed a checkbox, and spent hours afterwards removing adware? Ever opened your browser after an installation, only to find out that you have a new homepage, a new search engine, or even a new browser?
    Unchecky aims to keep potentially unwanted programs out of your computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brightest Bulb View Post
    I have been using Auslogics DeFrag for last 3 or 4 years and have had no trouble. I checked for update today and found out that there was an upgrade etc.
    1st thing noticed was a bright green Download bar to click on and a grayed out one that when read carefully was just download the update, other one was download with something that was gonna check out my PC.
    Got through that and then when I did the install and clicked on the I Agree button and next window was asking if I wanted regular or custom install but the printing on this was a # 5 size font could hardly read it. When reading the fine printing there were 3 different things it wanted to install with the DeFrag app. I unchecked them and finished the install but was a tad angry on the very small print trickery.
    That being said I do believe I'm gonna uninstall and just use Windows Defrag Can I assume it will do a decent job or not.
    Trickery? Oh it's worse than that! It's downright CRIMINAL, that they can't give you what you want without including CRAPWARE or even worse, SPYWARE.

    Now as for Auslogic's Defrag..... I've always been totally satisfied with the Windows Defrag, as being both effective and SAFE, going all the way back to it's beginning.

    But over the years, I've tested other Defrag programs for their speed and effectiveness. So one day I tried the Auslogic Defrag. I couldn't really tell what it had done till I did an Analysis with the Windows Defrag, so I could see the data pattern on my HD. It was a God-Awful mess, with no fragmentation, but the data files were scattered all the way out to the end of the partition, leaving huge holes in the data pattern, which is just an invitation to more fragmentation as I add more files to the drive. Every hole, will eventually become a fragmented file.

    I had just made a Ghost backup the day before I tried the Auslogic Defrag, so I did a Ghost Restore to get my C: drive back in acceptable shape again.
    Here's my C: drive after that Ghost Restore:


    The blue area is the data, OS, etc, and the Green Area is the Windows Pagefile, re-written to the drive after the Ghost Restore.
    I only use the Ghost Restore to defragment my C: drive, because it leaves the drive in perfect shape, with NO fragmentation and NO spaces between files.
    Some wiseacre once commented to me, on some forum, that "Ghost is not a defragmentation program". Well, maybe not, but it sure does a good job of it! Eh?

    I was disheartened, when I found that the Defrag function in AVG's PC Tuneup, is the same as the Auslogic Defrag. So I don't use that either.*

    * I do my Ghost backup once a week, then I Verify the backup file, and then I do a Ghost Restore, which effectively Defrags my C: drive. Total time spent.....less than an hour.

    My final assessment is that the Windows Defrag program is still the best and the safest, of all the defrag programs.

    Cheers Mates!
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    Backup! Backup! Backup! GHOST Rocks!

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    As to "unchecky", I use it and where it helps is that when you want to install a "free" program or whatever, if there is an added program ( that you may have missed the checkbox on ) in the install, unchecky throws up a small window letting you know that there is an included program and ask's you if you want to include it in the installation and gives you the choice to not install it or go ahead with the install of the extra program.
    HTH

    I don't download a lot of free programs so this is a pic of what unchecky caught on various occasions:
    Unchecky log.JPG
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    You should always have some free space between files post defrag, otherwise the first time you re-write anything you fragment the file with the last fragment at the end of the data. Leaving gaps allows files to grow without too much fragmentation.

    cheers, Paul

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