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    Windows Defender

    I disabled (I thought) Windows Defender when I installed BitDefender. But I still get notices that WD has been disabled. How / where can I turn this off totally?

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    You shouldn't be using a third party AV with Windows 10 yet. They aren't compatible for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwitalka View Post
    You shouldn't be using a third party AV with Windows 10 yet. They aren't compatible for the most part.

    Jerry
    I'll 2nd that emotion (<---- remember Motown?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwitalka View Post
    You shouldn't be using a third party AV with Windows 10 yet. They aren't compatible for the most part.

    Jerry
    OK Jerry, I can understand that. So are the Windows firewall and Windows Defender enough protection?

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    Chuck,

    "are the Windows firewall and Windows Defender enough protection?"


    Please, excuse if I, also, offer an answer

    Jerry, I think, will agree...

    I say yes. In al fairness & logic, would not be given something that would have a use shooting themselves in the foot. Personally, I and my clients have used same for many years w/ absolutely no negative issues, @ all. Certainly fine for the course of the betas. Should you go to something w/ the GA, be that open to what you choose @ that time for whatever reason. Whether others push for others things, be that as it may, I am quite content recommending the embedded, natively, offered Security & Firewall. In Enterprise there some consideration & products that can impact on what is used or done and that may well be for a different discussion.

    Will be interesting to hear what Jerry feels about your query, also.

    My view, is YES.

    I do, also, keep SpywareBlaster on Operating Systems to help stop 'the nasties' getting in, in the 1st place.

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    For now, I agree that it is good enough, especially with an occasional Malwarebytes scan. I haven't seen any reports of Windows 10 malware infections. That said, almost any third party AV would be a better choice after Windows 10 is released based on the AV reviews I've read.

    I don't recommend using a third party firewall because they cause more problems than they solve and just add more overhead. Others on this board will disagree with me.

    Jerry
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    Good sunny morn, Jerry.

    >>> Others on this board will disagree with me. <<<

    Not I for one. I do not and have never used any "protection" except as provided by MS. I maintain that the best protection is the interface between the chair and the keyboard. All my machines are pristine and have been for ever.

    Be good. Jean.

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    When compared to third party AV products Windows Defender comes off poorly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwitalka View Post
    For now, I agree that it is good enough, especially with an occasional Malwarebytes scan. I haven't seen any reports of Windows 10 malware infections. That said, almost any third party AV would be a better choice after Windows 10 is released based on the AV reviews I've read.

    I don't recommend using a third party firewall because they cause more problems than they solve and just add more overhead. Others on this board will disagree with me.

    Jerry
    I sure do not disagree!! Been in this business for a while, now & have had lots to support what you say.

    '>>> Others on this board will disagree with me. <<<

    "Not I for one. I do not and have never used any "protection" except as provided by MS. I maintain that the best protection is the interface between the chair and the keyboard. All my machines are pristine and have been for ever."

    I, also, can say the same as Jean has. And not only from myself but, in regard to my customers, as well.

    There is a tendency w/ some to just shy away from anything Microsoft. But, as Jean, said, WD & Windows Firewall have done the job for many for a long time. But, use whatever one wants...all we are mostly saying is wait until the GA if not wanting to stay w/ what the OS provides.

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    OK guys...thanks. At least for the moment there's nothing critical there anyway.

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    Testing to me, a working computer tech, means test the new OS as if I were installing it for one of my elderly customers, who have no knowledge of what is safe and what is not. They search, email and do their banking, all with their PC and they will need all the protection that they can get, without a lot of user intervention.

    So, I go ahead and set up a TP (or Beta) as if it were the real thing, in a real environment.

    I have to know that all my favorite and trusted Security Software will work properly with the new OS.

    To date, everything I use on XP or later OS's, will work equally well on Windows 10.

    I wholeheartedly agree, that After Market Firewalls, can be more trouble than they solve.
    I once installed the retail firewall, "Black Ice" at the recommendation of a so-called IT Specialist. Then I ran the firewall test at GRC.com and it poked holes in that firewall like it wasn't even there. Several important ports were wide open. I uninstalled that POS the same day.

    Then I tried Zone Alarm..... what a nightmare that was! So I'm back to the good ol' Windows Firewall which seems to work pretty well, unlike some of their other 'Security' software.

    Relying on any ONE piece of software to keep a PC completely SAFE, is foolhardy at best, just plain foolish at worse.
    Because, NO ONE program can totally keep a PC safe from "Viruses, Adware, Spyware, Trojans, Worms, Rootkits, Tracking Cookies, and PUP's". It's a Jungle out there!!!

    The one program that I do use, but that finds the least amount of Malware, is the highly touted "Malware Bytes". Go figure! And for some folks, that's the only program they use. ??? It's not really an Anti-Virus program.
    I find that Super Anti-Spyware finds and removes a lot more PUP's and Tracking cookies, for instance.

    Cheers Mates!
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