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    About KB 3035583

    Hello,
    I just got notification that there are updates from Microsoft for my Win7 Pro install; one "important" and three "optional". One of the optional updates is KB2952664, which I believe "snoops" your install sending info back to MS indicating if your software would be compatible with an upgrade to Win10 (at least that's my interpretation . . .). No thanks.

    The "important" update (KB3035583) carries no real explanation except to say: "This update enables additional capabilities for Windows Update notifications when new updates are available to the user. It applies to a computer that is running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Before you install this update, check out the Prerequisites section."

    Hmmm . . . what the heck does that tell me?

    Any insight is appreciated.
    Thanks ahead of time and
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    Bob

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    It seems to have been released initially as an optional update for Windows 8.1, then a few days later as an important update for Windows 7. So far as I can tell, it seems to be another update like KB2952664 that is aimed at facilitating future OS upgrades e.g. from Windows 7 to 8.1 or 10. I've hidden it pending eventual advice in Patch Watch.

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    I've hidden both of those along with the Skype update.

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    Like Tandor in #3, it looks like they're the pre-requisite files for upgrading W7 SP1 and 8.1 to W10 after it's released.

    Pretty sure this detail was given with the original release of KB3035583 (now overwritten by the current useless data), for KB2952664, see http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664 - judging by some of the files replaced by this update, it looks like it changes details collected cf. the earlier/original versions.

    Quite why this has been done I can only guess - telemetry data from users already having upgraded their W7 to W10 maybe?

    EDIT: re. KB3035583, there's a partial breakdown here http://www.myce.com/news/windows-upd...nloader-75647/

    My guess is that they're testing the waters for adding W10 to the Optional updates side of Windows Update ready for Release.
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    Satrow,
    Thank you!
    The last sentence in the article you cited is VERY interesting: "If Microsoft however decides to make KB3035583 an important update it will install automatically with other Windows update.".
    Well, MS DID in fact make it "important".
    I am glad I hid the update, and I also feel still further justified that I have had automatic updates turned off ever since Win 98 days, thank you.
    Currently, I am VERY HAPPY with Win 7 . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post

    My guess is that they're testing the waters for adding W10 to the Optional updates side of Windows Update ready for Release.
    Good guess Andy:
    http://www.neowin.net/news/patch-for...-to-windows-10

    Jerry

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    Once you install KB3035583 you will ( at some point ) be getting Ads.
    Good article here: http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-u...s-10-06377434/
    "Microsoft update quietly preps Windows 7, 8.1 for Windows 10"
    So it seems that Microsoft will be resorting to advertisements to convince users to take advantage of the free update to Windows 10, which will be available for only a year. Whether that gets annoying really quick or not will depend on how Microsoft executes it. But for those who are already wary of this new feature, you can simply skip the optional update. At least until Microsoft makes it an important one.

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    Ads, like a popup from the Taskbar, are only likely to arrive after the release of W10.

    If these ads etc. are likely to be a problem for corporate users, MS'll likely provide some way of blocking them, like the blocking toolkits for IE10 and 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    Ads, like a popup from the Taskbar, are only likely to arrive after the release of W10.

    If these ads etc. are likely to be a problem for corporate users, MS'll likely provide some way of blocking them, like the blocking toolkits for IE10 and 11.
    That would be my guess also. It will be a "nag" to upgrade. I hid the update this morning.

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    This "Important" Kb 3035583 update has in Prerequisites: To install this update, you must have April 2014 update rollup for Windows RT 8.1, Windows 8.1, and Windows Server 2012 R2 (2919355) installed in Windows 8.1. Or, install Windows 7 SP1........ April 2014 Update Rollup Link below

    (http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2919355)

    Clking the Rollup Link nets [ System Tip: This article applies to a different version of Windows than the one you are using. Content in this article may not be relevant to you.]...... No mention of Win 7 SP1 appears on the page..........

    So, they are asking Win 7 SP1 users to Install an Important Update with a Prerequisite that is NOT intended for Win 7SP1. Right??????

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    The Rollup is only for W8.1. Prerequisites for W7 are only that it has to be up to SP1 level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satrow View Post
    The Rollup is only for W8.1. Prerequisites for W7 are only that it has to be up to SP1 level.
    Thanks for the clarification. For some reason my amateur's expertise tried to make this more complicated than it was,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigS26 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. For some reason my amateur's expertise tried to make this more complicated than it was,
    Blame MS, not yourself

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