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    Image file on a DIET? Anyone ever?

    Can Win8.1 make a smaller-footprint Image Backup?

    I need to install a CAD program upgrade, but Iíve been warned that it might not work nice with Win8.1 and if it does not work, the ONLY solution will be to uninstall it. Iíve also been warned that when it uninstalls, it may disrupt the Win8.1 system and I will need to perform countermeasures.

    I have backed up the Registry.
    I have set a Restore Point.
    I have File History backing up the data Libraries, hourly.
    And Iíve made a flash drive copy of the Documents folder.

    I now need to make a [smaller-footprint] Windows Image Backup, but exclude the data files. Why smaller Image? Because with the data files, the image backup would not fit on a memory stick.

    Is there a way to shrink the size of the Image Backup? Or is that not a good idea?
    If not, is there another approach (or product) that makes sense? Iíve been wondering if the hyberfil.sys, Win update file dendrites, certain temp files etc could be deleted to make the Image footprint smaller. Iíd use CCleaner to delete, but not without an Image Backup.
    Or should I just TRUST System Restore to deal with it?
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    Messing with system files to shrink an image is NOT a good idea. Using the disk cleanup applet will safely remove files for you. Go to Control Panel and type disk cleanup in the search box, then click on "free up disk space...). Once the initial scan is complete click on the "Cleanup system files" button. It will do another scan. Then you can select various types of files to delete. NOTE: the scans and file deletion may take a while to complete.

    Consider acquiring an external HD. Memory sticks (aka thumb drives) are too unreliable for me to trust them for something as important as a system image.

    If you are concerned about the stability of your system because of software being installed make an image backup before you begin the installation.

    Joe

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    JoeP517.
    Thank you for giving consideration to my question.

    My goal is to make a slim image backup before I install the CAD software.
    Are there any image slimming options (aka switches) available to exclude "documents" from the image backup process, for example " -\documents " ?
    Paul

    Thanks for the tip re: Cleanup System Files safely. I ran it and it eliminated 1.7GB of mostly Win-Update Files. That leaves 50GB of Image Backup, described as OS(C System 49GB, which I assume includes Document files which total 5GB, or maybe not. Maybe hyberfil.sys, cache files and other stuff is in there, too?
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    If you don't use hibernation turn it off, re-boot, and delete hyberfil.sys if it is still there. You may use disc cleanup to delete temporary internet files or use the Internet options dialog in IE to remove them. If you use another browser check its settings for the way to delete temporary file.

    Some backup software will automatically skip the page file and hibernation files. Remember, an image backup is meant to be a complete backup of the drive or drives selected for backup. I would not trust File History to be a backup system as there have been too many reported issues with it. I'd make sure that the data which is important to me is backed up solidly. As frustrating as it may be it is only time to reinstall software that is required if the system crashes as long as your data is backed up. Data is the most important part of the system as much of it is irreplaceable or much more time consuming to reconstruct than it is to install programs.

    Many in the Lounge would recommend third party software to image your system.

    Joe

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    FYI
    Macrium Reflect can do a smart image and leave out pagefile ,, and ha a compression option, but DO follow Joe's advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    FYI
    Macrium Reflect can do a smart image and leave out pagefile ,, and ha a compression option, but DO follow Joe's advice.
    Wavy:
    Thank you for this info. Is that the free or paid Macrium?

    Slimware's RecImg Manager was suggested by a poster. From what I've read about it, Slimware has created an absolutely simple image backup and restore product with zero options. But its not a gigabyte slimming product.

    Does anyone know if Slimware can shrink the image file, too?

    Paul

    Anyone know if SlimWare's Recimage manager has options to reduce the size of the image file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP517 View Post
    If you don't use hibernation turn it off, re-boot, and delete hyberfil.sys if it is still there...
    Whenever I have turned hibernate off in "Power Options" in Win7 & Win8 the hiberfil.sys file remained. But if I run (admin-level command prompt):

    powercfg -h off

    the hiberfil.sys file is removed.

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    Is that the free or paid Macrium?
    Free version
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointFive View Post
    Is there a way to shrink the size of the Image Backup? Or is that not a good idea?
    If not, is there another approach (or product) that makes sense?
    Quote Originally Posted by PointFive View Post
    That leaves 50GB of Image Backup,
    Buy a 64GB flash drive for $18.

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