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    Older system to win 10?

    There are 3 computers in the house and 2 of them within 3 yrs. old ( both being win 7 Pro 64 bit ) so I am not too concerned with the newer ones.
    IF and when” I decide to upgrade to win 10, I am concerned about the 3rd computer which started out in 2003 with XP Pro. I updated it to Win 7 Pro 32 bit ( clean install ). On the ASUS P4C800 MotherBoard, the only driver that couldn’t be updated was the “Promise” controller for Raid ( which I don’t use anyway ).
    I had read an article on ZDNet that said I could check to see if this computer would upgrade to Win 10 by running the Win 8/8.1 compatibility check, which I did and it stopped, saying that there is no NX support. So I ran coreinfo.exe and it shows that the CPU (Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel ) supports CMPXCHG16b, NX, and all the other requirements.
    What am I missing? Thanks for any input.
    The coreinfo.exe file follows:

    Coreinfo v3.31 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
    Copyright (C) 2008-2014 Mark Russinovich
    Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

    Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
    x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3, GenuineIntel
    Microcode signature: 0000000C
    HTT * Hyperthreading enabled
    HYPERVISOR - Hypervisor is present
    VMX - Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
    SVM - Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
    X64 - Supports 64-bit mode

    SMX - Supports Intel trusted execution
    SKINIT - Supports AMD SKINIT

    NX - Supports no-execute page protection
    SMEP - Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
    SMAP - Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
    PAGE1GB - Supports 1 GB large pages
    PAE * Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
    PAT * Supports Page Attribute Table
    PSE * Supports 4 MB pages
    PSE36 * Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
    PGE * Supports global bit in page tables
    SS * Supports bus snooping for cache operations
    VME * Supports Virtual-8086 mode
    RDWRFSGSBASE - Supports direct GS/FS base access

    FPU * Implements i387 floating point instructions
    MMX * Supports MMX instruction set
    MMXEXT - Implements AMD MMX extensions
    3DNOW - Supports 3DNow! instructions
    3DNOWEXT - Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
    SSE * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
    SSE2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
    SSE3 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
    SSSE3 - Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
    SSE4a - Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
    SSE4.1 - Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
    SSE4.2 - Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

    AES - Supports AES extensions
    AVX - Supports AVX intruction extensions
    FMA - Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
    MSR * Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
    MTRR * Supports Memory Type Range Registers
    XSAVE - Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
    OSXSAVE - Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
    RDRAND - Supports RDRAND instruction
    RDSEED - Supports RDSEED instruction

    CMOV * Supports CMOVcc instruction
    CLFSH * Supports CLFLUSH instruction
    CX8 * Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
    CX16 - Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
    BMI1 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
    BMI2 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
    ADX - Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
    DCA - Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
    F16C - Supports half-precision instruction
    FXSR * Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
    FFXSR - Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
    MONITOR * Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
    MOVBE - Supports MOVBE instruction
    ERMSB - Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
    PCLMULDQ - Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
    POPCNT - Supports POPCNT instruction
    LZCNT - Supports LZCNT instruction
    SEP * Supports fast system call instructions
    LAHF-SAHF - Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
    HLE - Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
    RTM - Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions

    DE * Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
    DTES64 * Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
    DS * Implements memory-resident debug buffer
    DS-CPL * Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
    PCID - Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
    INVPCID - Supports INVPCID instruction
    PDCM - Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
    RDTSCP - Supports RDTSCP instruction
    TSC * Supports RDTSC instruction
    TSC-DEADLINE - Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
    TSC-INVARIANT - TSC runs at constant rate
    xTPR - Supports disabling task priority messages

    EIST - Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
    ACPI * Implements MSR for power management
    TM * Implements thermal monitor circuitry
    TM2 - Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
    APIC * Implements software-accessible local APIC
    x2APIC - Supports x2APIC

    CNXT-ID * L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

    MCE * Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
    MCA * Implements Machine Check Architecture
    PBE * Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

    PSN - Implements 96-bit processor serial number

    PREFETCHW - Supports PREFETCHW instruction

    Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000005 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).

    Logical to Physical Processor Map:
    ** Physical Processor 0 (Hyperthreaded)

    Logical Processor to Socket Map:
    ** Socket 0

    Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
    ** NUMA Node 0

    No NUMA nodes.

    Logical Processor to Cache Map:
    ** Data Cache 0, Level 1, 16 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
    ** Unified Cache 0, Level 2, 1 MB, Assoc 8, LineSize 128

    Logical Processor to Group Map:
    ** Group 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    I am concerned about the 3rd computer which started out in 2003 with XP Pro
    That makes it 12 years old. Time to buy a new one with W10 on it.

    cheers, Paul

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    Ahhh, the "cure-all", why didn't I think of that. Thanks Paul T.

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    Seriously, if you can't get drivers for W7 then W10 is not going to be better. The update checker is probably misreporting the problem, but it's still an unhappy camper so an update is unlikely. You could always take an image and then load the beta version of 10 to see if it really is going to be a mess.

    cheers, Paul

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    The GWX app runs a compatibility check. If you have installed the appropriate patches you should be able to run GWX to "reserve" your copy of Win10. As part of that process a compatibility check is run.

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    Lumpy95, greets. Your solution will be to try it as I did, I also have old machines, 10 to 6 year old ones. W-10 has honoured all my old apps. If you go back to some messages here, you will see what I mean, the main one is Office 2000, it runs faultlessly on W-10, I use Word and Excel 2000 every day, not a hiccup. I also run a dictionary in French that came with W-98, talk about good stuff.
    I am typing at you on a Toshiba lappy that is 8 year old so do not fear, be gusty and try W-10, the worst that can happen is that one app will not run but you will have to try first. No need to go and purchase a new one.

    My booboo, this machine was put into service Aug-05 2009, thus it is 6 year old.

    Have a great W-10 day. Jean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP517 View Post
    The GWX app runs a compatibility check. If you have installed the appropriate patches you should be able to run GWX to "reserve" your copy of Win10. As part of that process a compatibility check is run.

    Joe
    Thanks Joe, I haven't installed the GWX app on any of my computers yet, I just tried the Win 8/8.1 compatibility app as suggested from the article on my older system. I guess I will have to make a decision one of these days as to whether to jump or not, and hope for the best.

    You could always take an image and then load the beta version of 10 to see if it really is going to be a mess.

    cheers, Paul
    Thanks Paul, I clone my HDD once a month or before any major changes so we'll see.

    Your solution will be to try it as I did, I also have old machines, 10 to 6 year old ones
    Thanks Jean, That sounds hopeful in my case if I decide to jump on the update.

    To all, I guess everyone's answer to my original question would be to install win 10 then ( or at least the GWX ) and hope for the best. I wonder how clean the uninstall is for the GWX if things don't work out.
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    It is just a matter of uninstalling the patch.

    Joe

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    I cloned my HDD and set a restore point before installing KB3035583 on my older system but so far haven't seen any action from the update.
    Question: Do I have to install any other KB's to make KB3035583 active, because I don't have the small windows symbol in my taskbar.
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    Evidently installing KB3035583 by itself doesn't run the compatibility test.

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    Do you have the white Windows flag in the notification area?

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    Do you have the white Windows flag in the notification area?


    No, only the "Action Center" flag which has always been there.
    Last edited by lumpy95; 2015-06-15 at 14:30. Reason: added joe's quote

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    Is it hidden?

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    Not that I know of, here is a pic of what's in my notifications.
    notifications.JPG

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    Do you have KB 2952664 installed?

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