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    Clean install possible?

    My Win 8.1 Pro has accumulated GBs of junk over the last year. Is it possible to do a clean install of Win10 and start fresh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billrice View Post
    My Win 8.1 Pro has accumulated GBs of junk over the last year. Is it possible to do a clean install of Win10 and start fresh?
    Well, yes & no.

    1. Can outright buy Win10 & do a Custom install.

    2. (Free) Upgrade install on the 8.1 & then, do a Custom install of Win10 on that same machine.

    3. Clean the cr@p from the 8.1 & then do the Upgrade install.

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    Hi Drew,
    1. Obviously I don't want to buy Win 10.
    2. Probably the most likely. Installing a new OS may clean out a lot of old garbage in the process of installation anyway. If not I can, hopefully do a custom re-install if MS allows this. I have heard some comments that I would have to buy Win 10 to re-install it, hopefully that is wrong.
    3. Would love to clean the junk out of 8.1 before upgrading. How would you recommend I do that. I regularly run CCleaner, I occassionally run the MS disk cleaner with system files included and I have run other third party cleaners. However, they don't really clean most of the remnants that use up the disk space over time.

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    Bill,

    Ok, cool, so #1 is off the list.

    My point is if 8.1 is tidied up could just do the Upgrade to 10 and not feel so much like wanting to Custom install as well, after. Ergo, that would seem like the preferred approach. But, yes, one can do the Upgrade, then w/ the Win10 ISO (put to DVD or USB) Custom install on same machine & drive.

    As for 'cleaning' your 8.1

    1. > Programs & Features. Uninstall any not wanted, needed or used.
    2. > Internet Options, Delete, Delete.
    3. Run the latest version of CCleaner.
    4. Run Extended Disc Cleanup
    I do highly recommend configuring this to run automatically, nightly, via Task Scheduler.

    For now, this is how...

    > cmd or Powershell, Run as admin
    Type, cleanmgr sageset:01 Hit ENTER
    A window appears w/ a list of check boxes. They all get checked except the last 2 & maybe... I going by memory & not in 8.1, @ the moment. But, when you highlight 1 there's a blurb @ the bottom telling you which ones ought not be included & why.
    Hit OK
    Now back in cmd or Powershell
    Type - cleanmgr sagerun:01 Hit ENTER

    Can now close cmd or Powershell. Let the cleanup go until finished.

    I don't recommend any 3rd Party things, in this context, except CCleaner. Sage is better than the default Disc Cleanup. There are more items on the checkbox list and the subsequent times run do not need to recheck the boxes. Also, it does all volumes. Not, the one drive selected, @ a time, using the default.
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    From post 1
    My Win 8.1 Pro has accumulated GBs of junk over the last year. Is it possible to do a clean install of Win10 and start fresh?
    Or better yet #4 :


    Once you upgrade to Win10, whenever that may be, installation media will be available for download to do a clean install of Win10 on the system that you've upgraded. You should be able to reinstall Win10 to that system whenever you want... Even if it happens to be on August 15. You will not have to pay extra to reinstall on August 15... It will be just as free as it is on August 14 or 16. Microsoft has mentioned that the key will be embedded in the installation media and/or tracked by the Store app, so the system should just know if the installation is genuine, but because the final information on upgrading and installing is not yet available, it would be a good idea to keep track of your existing keys, just in case.

    Have a good one!
    from page 2 of:
    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...1376414&auth=1
    David

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    Thanks guys:

    Drew: I did the Sage clean thing. It only removed 300 MBs, but the computer seems to boot up quicker! I already am running on a SSD so that was a surprise.

    Wavy: Thanks for clearing up the rumor about re-installs.

    A last thought: I am a moderately skilled PC user, but I do not understand some of the OS inside operations, especially this kind of "upgrade". Would it help if I uninstall all my non-critical applications and do a good cleaning before installing 10 and then re-install them afterwords or would that just introduce more residue? In other words, will the upgrade remove most of the old OS files and start new, or just change the ones it needs to change for itself?

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    It's always nice/best to have a good 'foundation' before the Upgrade

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    and a good backup
    David

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    Final summary: I upgraded to Win10. It cleaned up everything and I do not have a need at this time to do a clean install!

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    Right on, Bill. Sounds good & makes perfect sense. Enjoy 10 as I'm sure you will. It's, really, nice (to use).

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    Thanks Drew.

    Never had it so easy to upgrade. Only did the kids computer so far, but it is an improvement for MS from the past!

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    Quote Originally Posted by billrice View Post
    Thanks Drew.

    Never had it so easy to upgrade. Only did the kids computer so far, but it is an improvement for MS from the past!
    You're welcome, Bill. & yes, absolutely... an End Users dream and something us IT Pros only imaged & wished for just a short time ago & for years. The Upgrade is easy & so is using Windows 10. Have been trying to convey 2 things for a long time... 1 upgrades of the past don't hold a candle to this & 2, things have changed HUGE w/ the Win10 Platform vs the past. "This ain't your daddy's OS" Not by a long shot.

    Enjoy as, I know you will & the family will. Look @ Get Started to gain familiarity w/ some of what 10 is & offers.

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