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    "Free"(?) Windows 10 and "Privacy"(?)

    An interesting (and sobering) read:

    http://theconversation.com/windows-1...-privacy-45593


    And here: (How to opt out of Microsoft's Intrusive new Terms of Use):

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-10432300.html

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    What worries me is the unique hardware ID

    If you do an upgrade install of Windows 10 and activate it, and then do a complete format of the hard drive and a clean install of Windows 10, it will activate automatically.
    This means if you format your hard drive and sell your computer, the next user who installs Windows 10 will automatically have the computer activated and tied to your name, e-mail, onedrive,etc.
    Should make identity theft easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalpha2 View Post
    If you do an upgrade install of Windows 10 and activate it, and then do a complete format of the hard drive and a clean install of Windows 10, it will activate automatically.
    This means if you format your hard drive and sell your computer, the next user who installs Windows 10 will automatically have the computer activated and tied to your name, e-mail, onedrive,etc.
    Should make identity theft easy.
    The unique hardware ID doesn't include your name or email address. The device is licensed, not the user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petesmst View Post
    And here: (How to opt out of Microsoft's Intrusive new Terms of Use):

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-10432300.html
    Turn off personalised ads
    Obviously, ads that are tailored to what you want depend on storing some of your data, otherwise you'd be bombarded with adverts for things you have no intention of buying.


    Right. Let's all make sure we get ads for stuff we don't care about rather than stuff we are interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalpha2 View Post
    If you do an upgrade install of Windows 10 and activate it, and then do a complete format of the hard drive and a clean install of Windows 10, it will activate automatically.
    This means if you format your hard drive and sell your computer, the next user who installs Windows 10 will automatically have the computer activated and tied to your name, e-mail, onedrive,etc.
    Should make identity theft easy.
    Presumably you do more than format the disk - but rather use CCleaner or Eraser to wipe the disk completely. In any case, one assumes you have a secure password, so they wouldn't be able to get in anyway.

    And when you add what Bruce has said, then there's no need to worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceR View Post
    The unique hardware ID doesn't include your name or email address. The device is licensed, not the user.
    Surely it's na´ve to assume the hardware ID and all your personal info harvested by default settings--name, address, email, much more--are not connected in some database?

    Remember, these companies are under pressure from the US government to supply info on stream and on demand, without disclosing same, which probably gives them legal cover to collect and connect what they like, as long as they keep the ToS fuzzy enough.

    A good rule of thumb is: "If they can, they will".

    So best idea for jsalpha2 is to either keep the HD or do more to wipe data than just a format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Feury View Post
    Surely it's na´ve to assume the hardware ID and all your personal info harvested by default settings--name, address, email, much more--are not connected in some database?
    I don't think I did assume that, because a subsequent owner of the computer will not have access to that (if users and files are deleted before sale or transfer, or Windows reset).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceR View Post
    I don't think I did assume that
    Ah ok, my bad assumption

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    I think the hardware ID thing has been around for a long time. It once was the CPU serial number, but that was a big mistake.

    If you want to dispose of a PC, sell it to someone, or give it away and have NONE of your information go with it, the remove the disk drives, You should have a recovery CD or DVD from the purchase of the unit, so use that to rebuild the system back to initial settings before it is sold, given away, or disposed of.

    But in general, keep your disk drives.

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    Disk drives are simple to erase securely with DBAN. Ignore the Blancco stuff and just get DBAN.

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    Disk drives are simple to erase securely with DBAN. Ignore the Blancco stuff and just get DBAN.

    cheers, Paul
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