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    Why does this happen?

    Win 7 Pro, SP-1

    I am the Administrator on this computer, and the only user, so I'm always running as administrator.

    When I look at the properties of a folder (right-click/properties), any folder, it always shows a light check mark in the "Read-only (only applies to files in folder)" checkbox. If I then uncheck the Read-only box and hit "Apply", I'm presented with a confirmation dialog where the only permissible radio button is pre-checked to "Apply changes to this folder, subfolders and files." The other radio button, "Apply changes to this folder only," is grayed-out and can't be checked.

    The next time I check the folder properties, the light checkmark in the "Read-only" checkbox is back.

    Why won't the changes I make to the folder properties stick?

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    Les,

    Even though you are the administrator you don't run in full admin mode. Try starting File Explorer in As Administrator.
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    1. Right-Click the File Explorer Icon on the Task Bar.
    2. Right-Click on File Explorer.
    3. Click on Run as Administrator.
    4. Make you changes.
    5. Check to see if they stick.


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    I have the same issue, but it makes no difference to my ability to use my files and folders, or delete them. It seems to be a Windows "feature".

    cheers, Paul

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    Indeed:

    You cannot view or change the Read-only or the System attributes of folders (KB326549)
    CAUSE
    Note Unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components and accessories, and other programs.
    For example, you can delete, rename, and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer.

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    A folder (AKA "directory") is always read-only because it is a "container" for files and other folders; i.e.: it is read-only because it does not possess any "write" functionality.

    Hope this makes sense.
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    Hey Y'all,

    I think I have to be a dissenter her as Directories are NOT Read-Only as can be clearly shown by the following 2 DIR commands

    First a list of all Directories in my Excel Directory
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    G:\BEKDocs\Excel>DIR /AD > G:\BEKDocs\DIRSTATUS.TXT
    
     Volume in drive G is Data
     Volume Serial Number is D2F3-1FE0
    
     Directory of G:\BEKDocs\Excel
    08/10/2015  03:52 PM    <DIR>          .
    08/10/2015  03:52 PM    <DIR>          ..
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          2003 Help Files
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          Archives
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          BHS
    02/27/2014  04:50 PM    <DIR>          Bridge Programs
    02/09/2015  04:35 PM    <DIR>          Class Modules
    10/24/2013  09:12 PM    <DIR>          Examples
    08/12/2015  09:29 PM    <DIR>          Finances
    10/24/2013  09:12 PM    <DIR>          HelpFiles2003
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          JEW Trucking
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          Jordan Investments
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          Shortcuts
    10/24/2013  09:11 PM    <DIR>          Standard VBA Module Exports
    01/21/2014  05:21 PM    <DIR>          Stock  Brokers
    01/21/2015  09:41 AM    <DIR>          Taxes
    08/12/2015  01:45 PM    <DIR>          Test
    02/15/2008  12:10 PM    <DIR>          TestInstaller
    07/15/2015  11:58 AM    <DIR>          Tools
    08/12/2015  01:44 PM    <DIR>          VBA
                   0 File(s)              0 bytes
                  20 Dir(s)  461,925,634,048 bytes free
    BTW: the command DIR /AD-R shows the same list as above

    Second a list of the Read-Only Directories
    Code:
    G:\BEKDocs\Excel>DIR /ADR >> G:\BEKDocs\DIRSTATUS.TXT
    
    Volume in drive G is Data
     Volume Serial Number is D2F3-1FE0
    
     Directory of G:\BEKDocs\Excel
    Of course the command window displayed "File Not Found" but that is not sent to the file!

    So why File Explorer shows the square in the box (which usually means "some on some off") I don't know but it does say in parens (Only applies to files in Folder). HTH
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    RG, I believe if you right click on any of those directories and select properties, you will find they only have the Read Only attribute. That's the what I see on all my document folders.

    Jerry

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    Jerry,

    Yes, see the last sentence in post #6.
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    This has been brought up for >10 years and still applies to Windows 10. From the Cause section at You cannot view or change the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in Windows XP, in Windows Vista or in Windows 7:

    Note Unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete, rename, and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer.

    The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system folder that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents, Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you customized by using the Customize tab of the folder's Properties dialog box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change the Read-only or System attributes of folders. When a folder has the Read-Only attribute set it causes Explorer to request the Desktop.ini of that folder to see if any special folder settings need to be set. It has been seen where if a network share that has a large amount of folders set to Read-only, it can cause Explorer to take longer then what is expected to render the contents of that share while it waits on the retrieval of the Desktop.ini files. The slower the network connectivity to the share the longer this process can take to the point where Explorer may timeout waiting for the data and render nothing or appear to hang.

    Note In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the Read-only attribute for folders by using the Properties dialog box for the folder, but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by using Windows Explorer.

    Joe

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    Thank you all for the replies.
    Sorry I took so long to get beck here, but for some reason, I wasn't receiving e-mail notification of replies, as I usually do.
    It appears that this issue is "normal" (that's Microsoft normal), and I'll probably just live with it. I was just curious.

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