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    Appearance tab

    I like the Classic view for my Windows XP Pro. I like to set the screen resolution to 1280 x 1024 so I have to do a lot of tweaking with the appearance tab under the desktop properties. When I change the size of the icons or sometimes other subtle changes my desktop icons rearrange themselves to the left side of the desktop. The only thing checked under
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    Re: Appearance tab

    About your icons jumping over to the left, I can only venture a guess. I have that happen when a few poorly written games that my kids *love* don't redraw the desktop properly after changing resolutions. Like you I have the high-res desktop and the classic look (well, sorta, if you ignore <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.windowblinds.net/>WindowBlinds</A>. You might try updating your video driver if you haven't already. It could be the source of this and your next problem.

    The color reverting I also don't have a hard and fast answer for. If you hit F5, does it refresh things the way they should be? It seems that you can no longer disable the Active Desktop, which was an option until XP arrived. It's probably buried in the registry somewhere, but I confess I have not dug deeply enough to find out yet. It's an interesting question that I will investigate.

    AFAIK you can't do a thing about the cutesy fade to black and white. Annoying, surely, but the is the OS for them asses.....er, I mean, the masses, per Microsoft's decree. Presumably that too can be avoided via the registry or some such but I haven't seen anything on the web regarding it - yet.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    I never play games on my computers. I don't even have any installed so that can't be the reason for the icons jumping. F5 doesn't help when the screen reverts to its original color.

    My video adaptor is a NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400. It is supposed to be XP compatible. When I go to the Windows update site it doesn't indicate that I need updated video drivers. Do you think I should try updating it anyway?

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    Re: Appearance tab

    I would certainly try newer drivers. The latest on NVidia's site are the 23.11's and I personally have had a few problems with them. I'm not alone - there have been other reports of problems on the net with this release.

    See if you can locate the NVidia driver release 21.83 - these are WHQL certified, digitally signed - and rock solid. The drivers that come stock with XP don't unleash all the potential and speed of your video card. If you have a card manufactured by Hercules, Dell, or another company, look for their specific driver releases instead of the Nvidia "reference" versions first.

    If you can't find the 21.83 drivers, let me know and I will post them for you to download at my personal site. They are not available on the NVidia corporate site any longer.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    Are you sure you mean NVidia driver release 21.83. I was not able to find the driver itself but in my search for it I came up with this site http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=957127915 and they have nothing good to say about that release. Sorry, didn't know how to make a hyperlink out of the previous address.

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    Re: Appearance tab

    I looked at that board and it's amusing - you could replace that with the 23.11s on some of the boards I have seen.

    What I recommended was based on personal experience. The 21.83 drivers are certified by Microsoft and are digitally signed, which means they went through a more intensive process than the current ones. Regardless of that I have many problems where the 23.11 drivers do NOT repaint the screen correctly, which was also a problem with the stock XP drivers when I first used them. I have also had a blue screen or two when an application uses DirectDraw although I can't replicate the problem.

    Since you have System Restore, create a checkpoint before you install the drivers, whichever you choose - and remember that even without it you have an option in XP to roll back the driver to the previous version. Both of these features work. Use them. And definitely try the drivers on for size. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

    <hr>Sorry, didn't know how to make a hyperlink out of the previous address<hr>
    Don't worry about it... <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> So that you know, the 1-click TagPanel on each post will show you how to do this. It's extremely similar HTML code, if you know that at all....<URL=www.yoursite.com>Link Text</URL>, but replace the < > with [ ].
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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    I checked my driver version it is 5.1.2001.0 by Microsoft XP. I believe you said that was a poor driver also. I'm not afraid to try and install a different driver but I have had no luck in finding the driver you said to search for. If could post it, I will give it a try.

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    Re: Appearance tab

    I'll upload it this evening for you, and post the link here.

    For the record, the driver that comes with XP isn't really poor - but it's also very plain-vanilla and doesn't enable hardware acceleration amongst a few other things. Its primary purpose is to provide stability and compatibility, and it's not optimized as the new ones are. Once you get the new driver installed, let me know what your experiences with it are.

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    Re: Appearance tab

    Icons rearranging themselves when changing resolutions is a problem that has plagued all versions of Windows. I know of no way to stop it, but you can get WinTidy (Mercury Freeware #31) which allows you to Save and Restore any desktop icon arrangements. It sits in the systray, and if you add new icons but forget to save, it will remind you.

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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    Thanks, I'll most definitely let you know the results as soon as I know them.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    Thank you. I have never before experienced icons rearranging themselves in Win 95b or Win 98SE so it appeared to be a new problem to me. The only times I saw it happen in the 2 previous versions mentioned is when I had to boot to the safe mode. Then all bets were off.

    Again, thanks.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    MerCurmudgeon,

    I loaded it and it appears to be a very handy tool.

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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    Have I missed the link or haven't you gotten around to posting it yet?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    <hr>Have I missed the link or haven't you gotten around to posting it yet?<hr>
    ummmm...errrm.....I am terribly sorry it took me so doggone long. <img src=/S/blush.gif border=0 alt=blush width=15 height=15> You've missed nothing, but you have stumbled across what happens when I don't put something down in my planner, or do it right away.

    They are up there now....and here is the link for you:

    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.broge.com/download/nvidia/2183/winxp_21.83.exe>http://www.broge.com/download/nvidia...inxp_21.83.exe</A>

    FYI, these are for both Windows 2000 and XP.
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    Re: Appearance tab

    Mark,

    Thanks, I'll let you know as soon as I figure out if they helped.
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