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    Online Accessible Storage?

    After asking several questions over a couple of forums about DropBox files, I have finally learned that DropBox is NOT for online storage (although it can serve that way)... it is an online SYNCING tool (which it does very well). If that is true, then it is also true of OneDrive, for which I had the same questions about HDs filling up.

    Every file uploaded to DropBox is COPIED, not MOVED, so each device linked to a specific account has access. This does NOT eliminate the files on the HD, thus freeing it up. This is increasingly critical when you have a Surface or Surface Pro... and reduced HD space. With my former laptop, I didn't care - I had storage to spare. Not with my Surface Pro 3 (256GB, 64GB external mini-SD) using WIN 10 -- which makes me very happy in other ways than storage - I have tons of photo files.

    So... is there a service out there which would allow me access to files, without having those files reside on my HD as well? Briefly (I know, too late), I want the potential of all my files in some cloud, with a nearly empty HD (so to speak). This is realizing that if a file is downloaded for any reason it obviously does reside on the local HD. I use Backblaze as a backup service... It does well as a backup system, but it is not made for what I want. Apparently, then, neither is DropBox (or OneDrive) to some extent.

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    I don't use DropBox, but with OneDrive you can deselect folders to be synced with a particular device: See the 54 sec. video at OneDrive on your PC

    You can still upload to those folders via the web.
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    I can selectively sync with DropBox as well. The Surface Pro 3 is my main traveling computer right now, so I want (need?) to have all my 'cloud' storage available here. When you selectively sync, you have all the files 'in the cloud', but can only access those you are actively syncing -- unless you work through the web. Technically it shouldn't be hard to do it that way, and it might 'solve' my issues. Access on my tablets, phone, etc. are nice, but not productively necessary.

    One problem I had with OneDrive was that when I first noticed the 'residual' files still on my computer, I talked to OneDrive 'specialists' with Microsoft for an explanation. They had no idea what I was talking about and their 'script' responses were almost laughable. Generally, I've receive excellent customer service from MicroSoft (yes, it surprises me as well) over the past year or so, but this 'service' was unbelievably horrid.

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    You might want to consider an internet-accessible hard drive, which you will keep at your house. In this way, you will pay no monthly fees, and you will be in complete control of the data.

    Here's something from Seagate.

    Here's a review on this product.

    (The 2-bay is the same as the basic unit, except that it has two hard drives rather than one; and you can set it up so that both are synchronized [backed up] with each other, or double the storage without the synchronization.)

    The only thing I am a bit unclear on is, how secure is it? My guess is that it is sufficiently secure.

    There are lots of similar products from other companies as well.

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    Obviously, I'm in the minority here, but......
    I've been in the computer business, both as a user and as a Technician/Builder since 1980 and I've seen and heard of so many cases where important personal data has been stolen by those we're supposed to trust.
    I don't trust the people who are administering the "Cloud" because I don't know them. They are 'Strangers' and I don't feel comfortable trusting my personal data to 'Strangers'.
    We're supposed to teach our children about "Stranger Danger", yet some will trust there most important data files to totally unseen strangers.

    I'm reminded of the two guys at AOL, who supposedly were 'Trusted' employees, who stole thousands of customer's addresses and passwords and then SOLD them.

    I have data files going back over fifteen years that I definitely DO NOT want to trust to the hands of 'Strangers'. Shucks.....I won't even trust my data to people I know and supposedly trust.

    That's what external hard drives were designed for. I have ten of them.
    In many cases, important data files can be just backed up to a large USB (3.0) Flash Drive.
    I use the 'progressive backup' scenario, on my desktop PC, where my most recent data files are backed up to TWO external drives, in mere seconds.

    "The Cloud"? Well, not for this old boy!

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    Encrypt the data if you are worried. I'd have to check but some of the "cloud" services encrypt the data in transit and at rest.

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    Thanks for your response DrWho...

    I understand the potential issues... nothing I have 'in the cloud' really needs to be secure. That information stays close by and local in separate files. My interest in placing stuff in the cloud for access is solely for my convenience. I already have a solid external drive which worked just fine with a laptop (which really didn't fit my personal lap very well). With the Surface, I find having an external drive dangling from the USB port is a big headache -- and after at least two falls from my lap to the floor, I feel I need another strategy. If I feel the need to put items in the cloud which need to be secure, it is easy enough to encrypt them locally and then send them 'up'. I'm comfortable with local encryption if need be.

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    Thanks for this mrjimphelps,

    This is looking like a real possibility. I have an 'old' GoFlex Home network drive I might see about resurrecting. I've had problems in the past, but with a new firmware update (apparently available), it might be reactivated for my use. If not, the product you've highlighted would be a relatively inexpensive way to have it my way. If I need certain files to be secure, I can easily encrypt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
    Obviously, I'm in the minority here, but......
    I've been in the computer business, both as a user and as a Technician/Builder since 1980 and I've seen and heard of so many cases where important personal data has been stolen by those we're supposed to trust.
    I don't trust the people who are administering the "Cloud" because I don't know them. They are 'Strangers' and I don't feel comfortable trusting my personal data to 'Strangers'.
    We're supposed to teach our children about "Stranger Danger", yet some will trust there most important data files to totally unseen strangers.

    I'm reminded of the two guys at AOL, who supposedly were 'Trusted' employees, who stole thousands of customer's addresses and passwords and then SOLD them.

    I have data files going back over fifteen years that I definitely DO NOT want to trust to the hands of 'Strangers'. Shucks.....I won't even trust my data to people I know and supposedly trust.

    That's what external hard drives were designed for. I have ten of them.
    In many cases, important data files can be just backed up to a large USB (3.0) Flash Drive.
    I use the 'progressive backup' scenario, on my desktop PC, where my most recent data files are backed up to TWO external drives, in mere seconds.

    "The Cloud"? Well, not for this old boy!

    Cheers Mates!
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    Doctor:

    I'd be interested in your thoughts on my idea of an internet-accessible hard drive, which you keep at your house. If encryption/decryption-on-the-fly, good passwords, etc., could be employed, it seems like you would have all of the advantages of keeping your data on your own personal external hard drive, along with the convenience of not having to carry it around.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by edalsie View Post
    Thanks for this mrjimphelps,

    This is looking like a real possibility. I have an 'old' GoFlex Home network drive I might see about resurrecting. I've had problems in the past, but with a new firmware update (apparently available), it might be reactivated for my use. If not, the product you've highlighted would be a relatively inexpensive way to have it my way. If I need certain files to be secure, I can easily encrypt them.
    If you are going to depend on a network drive that you keep at home, for accessing your data while on the road, then you should consider getting a UPS for your modem/router and for the network drive. If the power goes out at your house, your drive won't be available from anywhere. However, the UPS would keep both the modem/router and the drive up and running, thereby keeping the drive accessible while you are on the road.

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    Good point... probably should have one anyway. Actually, I'm considering a portable generator -- just in case. I borrowed one which came in handy a few years back when we lost home power for nearly a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edalsie View Post
    Good point... probably should have one anyway. Actually, I'm considering a portable generator -- just in case. I borrowed one which came in handy a few years back when we lost home power for nearly a week.
    A generator takes a minute or so to come online. A UPS would keep everything running till your generator kicks in. Also, since the modem/router and the network drive would be running directly off of the UPS, the UPS would serve as a buffer, protecting these devices from power surges, spikes, and sags.

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    Just remember not all UPSs are created equal!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninte...y#Technologies

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    Excellent point --

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    I had a UPS powering my main PC a few years ago. I had a power surge and it blew the UPS. It also took out a few other things.

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