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    SSD life

    I have just installed an SSD as the main drive and am astonished at the speed difference it has made. I have received an email from Ablesoft offering a discount on their program SSD Fresh 2015, advertised as prolonging the life of an SSD. The drive warranty is three years no quibble, so the manufacturers must be confident about the reliability - is there a problem and is the software worth it - I know that the drive should not be defragged. The advertisement claims " Reduces unnecessary read and write accesses - Turns off obsolete and unneeded services - Analyses and eliminates hazards for your SSD.

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    If you have W7 or above, you probably don't need it as these OSs support TRIM which optimises the drive. If you have XP, it may be beneficial.

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    And it sounds a little like those PC tweak programs many here warn against,

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    SSD FRESH 2015

    This software, although potentially usefull, is probably not needed when many of it's reported actions
    can easlily be replicated with other free software programs.
    So, no. You do not need to be sucker punched into making a useless purchase.
    DRIVE IMAGING
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    Given the tested lifespan of SSD drives I can't see why you would ever need to load additional software.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/28560...ity-fears.html

    cheers, Paul

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    Thanks to everyone for their advice/comments - I have read the pcworld article and am satisfied that I should have no worries on the longevity score - I will not buy the software

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    SSD Life: My SSD experiences quite heavy use and I use no software to "look after it", apart from the automatic Windows TRIM function. I use "Hard Disk Sentinel" to monitor all my drives. The predicted remaining life according to Hard Disk Sentinel is "more than 1 000 days". (the total "up time" for this SSD to date is recorded as "184 days 18 hours".
    (My Setup: Custom built: 3,70GHz Intel Core i7-4820K CPU; MSI Military Class iii X79A-GD45 Plus Motherboard; Win 10 Pro (64 bit) - (UEFI-booted); 16GB RAM; 512GB SAMSUNG SD850 PRO SSD; 120GB SAMSUNG 840 SSD; Seagate 2TB Barracuda SATA6G HDD; GeForceGTX 980 4GB Graphics Card; Office 2013 Prof (32-bit); MS Project 2013 (32-bit); Acronis TI 2015 Premium, NIS 2016, VMWare Workstation12 Pro, etc). WD My Book 3 1TB USB External Backup Drive). Samsung 24" Curved HD Monitor.

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    My SSD is 3 years old and has a total power on hours of 4117 (171 days). In that time it has written 4356GB. Assuming a conservative 600TB lifespan I reckon I have another 300 years to go.

    cheers, Paul

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    I still have my OCZ Vertex 3 that's over 5+ years old.
    It's being used as a video ripping and conversion drive, and sees periods of
    intense activity alternating with periods of dormancy.

    The newer M.2 SSD that is my primary drive is running well with no issues to speak of.
    It's vintage only dates back to last January.

    Windows keeps them optimized on a weekly basis automatically. I only need to intervene if the optimizations got missed for whatever reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    I reckon I have another 300 years to go.

    cheers, Paul
    Enjoy it !

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    Most SSD brands have software which caches small file "Writes" until there's a bunch of them and then it writes them all at once. This does actually extend the life of the SSD. Depending on which SSD you purchased it probably has this feature built-in. Windows 7, Windows 8/8.1 and Windows 10 all turn off unnecessary features such as Defragmentation, Prefetch, etc. Other features that remain will benefit from having the SSD's extra speed (Paging file, Indexing, etc.), even though some "tweaky" users will insist on disabling those features to gain a tiny bit of extra life from the drive. All SSDs have "garbage collection" which ensures performance will be maintained in Windows XP (which lacks the TRIM function).

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    Defragmentation is not turned off, it just performs differently on an SSD.
    http://www.hanselman.com/blog/TheRea...ntYourSSD.aspx

    cheers, Paul

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    I'm so glad to hear reports of SSD's that have lasted for years, not days or weeks.

    A PNY drive that I bought directly from PNY lasted only about three months before it died.
    I called PNY Support and they refused to replace the drive. So now PNY is on my SH** list.

    I ordered a new SanDisk SSD from Amazon and it came with a link to download the "SanDisk SSD Dashboard" that includes Trim. Trim is set up to run once a week, automatically. The drive is lightning fast and I'm really very happy with it.

    But, once burned, twice shy! I do a full backup of my SSD once a week, just in case it should ever fail.
    All my data files are backed up daily, to two USB 3.0 devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
    I'm so glad to hear reports of SSD's that have lasted for years, not days or weeks.

    A PNY drive that I bought directly from PNY lasted only about three months before it died.
    I called PNY Support and they refused to replace the drive. So now PNY is on my SH** list.


    The Doctor
    Less than 3 month warrantee ? That alone should be sufficient reason to avoid..
    f'em


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    A few years ago we had a Kingston 64GB SV100 SSD fail suddenly. Kingston support replaced the drive without question and even sent a newer model SV200. That's a better way to retain at least a modicum of respect from your customers. The replacement drive, as well as two 96GB Kingston SSDs we use in our other PCs, are still working great today.

    Sadly, Kingston sullied their reputation a couple of years ago. After introducing the SV300 model with positive reviews on several well-respected websites, Kingston replaced the synchronous NAND chips in that model with cheaper a-synchronous NAND. The result of this change is a significant reduction in the drive's Write speed on any and all incompressible data (which includes nearly all video, music, photos, etc.) and some types of random data, too. Kingston chose not to change the model number or even reduce the price to reflect that broad performance downgrade and, worse, they chose not to reveal the change. When confronted, a Kingston spokesperson simply kept repeating that the SSD still meets it basic specification as measured by a favorable benchmark test called ATTO. As you may know, the ATTO benchmark is akin to measuring your car's top speed while driving downhill with a tailwind. Other well-known and more realistic benchmarks such as AS-SSD and CrystalDiskMark show the drastic drop in performance experienced when an SV300 is equipped with the a-synchronous NAND chips. Just to prove there's a silver lining to every dark cloud you can now buy a bundle of 3 or 4 V300s for a real knockdown price and, to be fair, if all you need is decently fast Read speeds (and Write speeds slower than a regular spinning hard drive don't matter) then this could be a bargain for some!

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