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    Windows Update error can block Win10 upgrade

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    Windows Update error can block Win10 upgrade


    By Fred Langa

    Problems with Windows Update components might not just interfere with routine updates, they can also prevent Win10 upgrades. But there's a relatively easy fix. Plus: Killing "undeletable" files and folders in all Windows versions, and Microsoft finally reveals Win10 activation details — including the new "digital entitlement."

    The full text of this column is posted at windowssecrets.com/langalist-plus/windows-update-error-can-block-win10-upgrade/ (paid content, opens in a new window/tab).

    Columnists typically cannot reply to comments here, but do incorporate the best tips into future columns.

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    Just as a comment on the file deletion tools, I'm partial to IOBit tools and as such I use IOBit Unlocker. http://iobit.com

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    Fred -

    Similar long-standing similar problem trying to upgrade from 8.1 to 10.

    Two other family computers (Surface Pro and Surface Pro 2) upgraded without incident.

    Have attempted upgrade a dozen times, the process has included updating all drivers, and the end result is always error code c1900101-20017. When I try to upgrade from a DVD-based ISO, I got the message, "Installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation."

    I can now identify with Albert Einstein's definition of insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

    Hope to see more possible solutions in your column soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by downinfl View Post
    Have attempted upgrade a dozen times, the process has included updating all drivers, and the end result is always error code c1900101-20017. When I try to upgrade from a DVD-based ISO, I got the message, "Installation failed in the SAFE_OS phase with an error during BOOT operation."
    Woody mentions that specific error in an article today (section headed Error: 0xC1900101-0x20017, -0x30018, -0x20004 and others), and provides links to potential workarounds, but ends that section with "But in general, this one’s a mammoth, insurmountable time sink. Give Microsoft a few months or more to figure it out.":

    12 Windows 10 install issues -- and what to do about them

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    You recommend MoveOnBoot for files which can't otherwise be removed. I used that one for a long time, and found it good, but I switched to Unlocker http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirror/unlocker,1.html. It removes many files without having to reboot first.

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    Fred is correct in what he suggests for solving the update problem. However, when I had the update problem, I contacted MS support and they provided me with this batch file. The batch file contains all that Fred suggested and more. However, the techie ran it under my Win10 setup and I cannot vouch if it'll fix everything under Win7/8.
    Last edited by macropod; 2015-10-10 at 08:03. Reason: Deleted offer of copyright material

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    Fred - good advice on file unlocking but the suggested sequence surprises me.
    Like Mark, I also use Unlocker. If the file is in use, it will usually tell you by what. Otherwise, it lets you unlock it easily, then delete. Reboot rarely required. That is vastly simpler than the song and dance of Safe Mode when you simply have a pesky file.

    Sometimes, the lock is fixed after a reboot but then you have to make note of the file to check it later. Much easier to use the above.

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    Jackpet, please don't offer to send people copyright material, even if it's only a batch file.

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    Jackpet, please don't offer to send people copyright material, even if it's only a batch file.

    cheers, Paul
    Had no idea that a batch file is copyrighted. Is it an "auto copyright" or does Microsoft submit the batch file to be copyrighted? If I write a batch file, is it automatically copyrighted?

    In another vein, the tech support person left it on my computer and instructed me to use it if the same problem occurred. If it's copyrighted, did she have the right to do this?

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    Anything original you create is copyright by you, but you can assign the rights anyway you like. Microsoft rarely grant rights to others except to use the software, so redistributing the file would potentially be a breach. More importantly, there is no guarantee that the file will be relevant to others.

    By leaving the file on your computer MS is granting you the right to use the file, nothing more.

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceR View Post
    Woody mentions that specific error in an article today (section headed Error: 0xC1900101-0x20017, -0x30018, -0x20004 and others), and provides links to potential workarounds, but ends that section with "But in general, this one’s a mammoth, insurmountable time sink. Give Microsoft a few months or more to figure it out.":

    12 Windows 10 install issues -- and what to do about them
    Many, many thanks for the link to that article! I'll just relax for a while and see when (if?) Microsoft figures it out...

    Thanks again!

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    Like Alpha Wolf, I use 'Unlocker'. Been using it for years. All it needs is a Simple right click on the problem file in File Explorer, which enables immediate delete of any file. For files with un-removable locks it offers to delete next reboot.
    Absolutely dead simple and works every time. Brilliant piece of free software. Another example if KISS working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark1615 View Post
    You recommend MoveOnBoot for files which can't otherwise be removed. I used that one for a long time, and found it good, but I switched to Unlocker http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/getmirror/unlocker,1.html. It removes many files without having to reboot first.
    listed as adware ??
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    The Unlocker home page (http://www.emptyloop.com/unlocker/) is ad-supported (it offers some registry 'booster' crapware), otherwise it's fine.

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    The default installation does bring a PUP (Delta Toolbar) though.

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