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    Lightbulb Susan Bradley's petition to MS over W10 updates.

    https://www.change.org/p/satya-nadel...-in-windows-10

    a) #2 needs extending to all supported Windows versions.

    b) Sign it.

    Woody's take: http://www.infoworld.com/article/299..._pm_2015-10-16

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    Signed it!

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    I signed it from the link in the newsletter. I finally had to unsubscribe from change. org though since they flooded me with other petitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    I finally had to unsubscribe from change. org though since they flooded me with other petitions.
    Good point, I'd noticed that in recent months as well - sign it and then check your email - unsubscribe, seems to be the way to go, a pity really, by trying to foist extra petitions on us, they're probably losing supporters.

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    There are ways to control auto updates in Win 10 but it isn't like everyone would know about them, or even if they are aware of help forums when they have problems.

    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-o...-in-windows-10

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    Yes, you can control the auto-updates, if you don't mind it bugging you on a regular basis telling you that upgrades are pending. But once you do run the update, you have absolutely no choice about which patches are applied. You don't even get a list the way you used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsmith-plm View Post
    Yes, you can control the auto-updates, if you don't mind it bugging you on a regular basis telling you that upgrades are pending. But once you do run the update, you have absolutely no choice about which patches are applied. You don't even get a list the way you used to.
    Did you read through the article I linked - there is a sub link on how to download a MS tool to hide some updates which will give you control over which patches are installed.

    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/block-...-in-windows-10

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    Oops... There is a nearly identical article with a nearly identical name from the same source that deals with how to change the updates to only download when told to do so. I thought this was the same thing. It seems that they have moved passed that.

    I just had a look at this and it's a good deal less than we previously had with updates, but it does expand the options some.
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    Hope the article will be of use to you, but knowing about it is at least half of the battle (with MS).

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    I unchecked the "display my signature" box before signing, and so far, no emails from change.org

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    Well, this new utility is indeed a bit odd. It is a Windows Troubleshooter that, apparently, was created to allow the user to prevent a specific update from reinstalling - at least that's what the article seems to be saying.

    It's difficult to tell if this is to be used as a replacement for the normal Update or in addition to it. And it's not clear if this can be useful if you have not already stopped the default action in Win10 which will automatically download and installing updates.

    Of course, there's still the issue of cumulative updates as opposed to individual patches. This tool isn't going to help you if one of these breaks something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsmith-plm View Post
    Well, this new utility is indeed a bit odd. It is a Windows Troubleshooter that, apparently, was created to allow the user to prevent a specific update from reinstalling - at least that's what the article seems to be saying.
    Check the section at the bottom of the article. That's where you download the tool...

    "If later on, an updated driver or updated is released and you wish to install it now, you may click on the Show hidden updates and uncheck them

    You can download the tool from KB3073930."

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    To clarify... Starting with my Oops comment, I had downloaded and tested the tool. Later comments were to say that using it gives you a somewhat different perspective than the article. And raises some additional questions.
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    The main problem w/ that 'utility' is you must have already had the update forced on you and managed to uninstall it before you can hide it. This presents a potential problem in that if the update has snookered the system into an unstable or unbootable state unistallation maybe a huge problem for many users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    The main problem w/ that 'utility' is you must have already had the update forced on you and managed to uninstall it before you can hide it.
    That's what I'm not clear about but I don't think that's the case. What it seems to do when I run it is to give me a short list of what updates are pending and allows me to hide them. One thing this could be used for is to stop an update that you have already uninstalled, but it could also be to stop one you know to be problematic before it installs the first time.

    What makes all of this so hard to follow is that it would seem that in order to be able to use this tool, you would first have had to disable the automatic install that is the default behavior. This also assumes you have Win10 Pro. There's way too much assumption, speculation, and word-of-mouth and not enough definitive information involved with the whole update process.
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