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    Why so many W10 articles in the Windows Secrets Newsletter

    I am not sure if this is the correct spot to post this mini-vent.
    Moderator-- please move this if appropriate.

    I'll be brief. I like W7. At this point, I see no reason to move to W10.
    I realize others feel differently, but I sense that there are still MANY W7 users out there.

    The newsletter used to be a great source of useful information for me.
    Now, it seems that you have gone, literally, almost 100% towards being a W10 newsletter.

    How about striking more of a balance.

    Too much W10 and not enough W7.

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    I think W10 has captured the nation's attention, for now. I hope Windows 7 and all other Windows will show up in the newsletter again soon, all be back to normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compiler View Post
    I am not sure if this is the correct spot to post this mini-vent.
    Moderator-- please move this if appropriate.

    I'll be brief. I like W7. At this point, I see no reason to move to W10.
    I realize others feel differently, but I sense that there are still MANY W7 users out there.

    The newsletter used to be a great source of useful information for me.
    Now, it seems that you have gone, literally, almost 100% towards being a W10 newsletter.

    How about striking more of a balance.

    Too much W10 and not enough W7.

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    With answers like this, the fact that you were thanked 81 times in 89 posts in mystifying

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    Greetings from the Great Country of TEXAS,

    If I may post a bit about my idea on this subject? Seems to me that many are wanting to get into Win10 under the deadline and knowing there are very many out there still to work with this new OS, like ME! Just have not had the time, yet.

    Maybe Windows Secrets can take this as a suggestion, instead of putting out newsletters every week on Win10 take an off week from Win10 and include some updates for Winxx (whatever) and post some updates as some are wanting or needing, taking some data from Lounge posts or direct email to the EDITOR. NOT all are members of the LOUNGE so may not know about such an animal.

    From my own experiences with different versions of Windows it takes some hard thinking and some careful/creative work to get them all covered. I am just a self-taught troubleshooter and user of Windows from the DOS days in home used Windows through Win7 Pro 64bit. Am attempting to get into Win10 soon myself.

    I do NOT post here very often as I am just not that multi-tasking yet, too many people with issues on their home computers and not able to pay some of the fees required my GEEKs, Nerds, or any other cute named bill providers. I do it for the pleasure of knowing the needed HELP was accomplished and @ 75 may not be around long enough to collect those bills.
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    NTLS:

    Not a bad idea. I would understand if say 60% of the issue was devoted to W10. I, too, am a senior citizen and I also cut my teeth on DOS. I am an experienced computer user.

    I guess I am saying that W7 is an excellent, stable OS. W8 was a disaster (arguably). W10, from my understanding, is quite good. At this point, while I love learning new stuff, I do not see the need for W10, for ME. But there are plenty of us out there who are satisfied with W7 and don't care to upgrade. I've enjoyed the Windows Secrets Newsletter, and I've learned a lot from it. I have never paid anyone for computer help. I've posted questions/issues on this and other Forums and I've gotten some great problem-solving advice.

    Just to underscore my point:
    In fact, looking at our Lounge right now:

    W10: 98 Viewing, 1088 Threads, 8151 Posts.
    W7: 393 Viewing, 6257 Threads, 50809 Posts

    In short, while I would expect more W7 posts since it is a much older OS, there are about 4 times as many viewers.



    Anyway, enough said. I hope the editors will at least read my comments and consider them.

    Mel
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    Compiler,

    Just not very accustomed to posting these types of information/suggestions, hope it is understandable enough that we may gain some attention.

    There are many that do no want to move from Win7 and that is understandable, stability!! That is the SECRET, the main question is, "will µSoft (symbol means Micro) extend the updates and keep it as a back-up for any or all future incarnations of their software? I find it to be very stable but also very easy to 'self fix some issues' and others are simple for users to work around.
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    When Windows 7 first came out, the majority of the articles on tech websites and newsletters were slanted toward the new OS.

    Windows XP users were complaining about the same thing.

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    NTLS:

    Oh, eventually Microsoft will cease to support W7 (my guess is that is 2-3 years away). Eventually, we will all migrate to W10 and then there will be a W11 to cause us more grief in the decision-making process.
    In the old days, I remember moving from DOS machines to a Windows-based computer because my essential programs, including Turbo Tax, ran like crap (SLOW) under DOS. These days, my programs work just fine. In fact, they did with XP. I moved to W7 due to MicroSoft dropping support/updates. It was fun and it was new. But, somehow these days, I really see no reason to move to W10. Anyway, that is a different topic. If the newsletter morphs into the W10 newsletter, then it will not be worth my time reading it. Hopefully this is just a temporary thing and they will soon be a bit more even-handed

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    Quote Originally Posted by compiler View Post
    Oh, eventually Microsoft will cease to support W7 (my guess is that is 2-3 years away).
    4 years, 3 months; but not a second longer : extended support continuing until January 14, 2020

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    To play devil's advocate for a moment, it is called Windows Secrets, which I take to mean that WS should be up on the latest version. It's their job. As long as there is content applicable to Win7 and older occasionally, I'm happy. Like compiler, I think the novelty of Win10 will wear off soon enough.
    As for me, I will happily run my Win7 machines until they become hazardous. I still run a Vista machine for old software that would be difficult to install on Win7. After end of support, the Vista box will have its network connection severed and will probably run well for several years air-gapped.

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    To point out to you what might be obvious to many of you, Windows Secrets has not been advocating an immediate upgrade to Windows 10. Some part of many apparently Win10-centric articles include cautions about the state it's in. I'm sure that if Windows Secrets didn't mention the hazards of too-early adoption, many of you would be unhappy about that. Just to remind you, here's what Lincoln Spector said a couple of weeks ago (in a Win10 Top Story):

    "We all know that Windows 7 is an excellent and firmly established operating system that has a familiar and fully functional Start menu. And for classic, non-touchscreen systems, Win10’s new Start menu offers no real advantages over Win7’s.

    However, Windows 10 is far more than a revamped Start menu; it has numerous features that either don’t exist in Win7 or have been significantly improved. Not all of these enhancements were introduced with Win10; some are familiar to Win8 users. But Win7 users can now get the latest Windows features for free — and never have to cope with Win8’s “neither fish nor fowl” interface.

    That said, I’m not promoting the Win10 upgrade for all Windows 7 systems. In fact, I’m writing this article on a PC that’s still running Win7. My initial attempt to run Win10 on my production computer turned into a disaster of incompatibilities and BSoDs, as detailed in the Aug. 27 Top Story, “Thirty-day Win10 experiment lasts only a week.”

    There are also Win10’s controversial — some say notorious — privacy issues to consider. For more on that topic, see the Sept. 10 LangaList Plus column (paid content)."

    If you didn't read that article just because it seemed to be all about Windows 10, you will have missed Lincoln Spector's valuable perspective on the changing Windows OS landscape.

    And thank you, toextra, for noting that it is our job to cover Windows news, which very much includes the latest version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by compiler View Post
    With answers like this, the fact that you were thanked 81 times in 89 posts in mystifying

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    Well Mel it was a serious comment as well as humorous. There is a wealth of info in back issues, much of what people wanted to know re W7 has been covered. Do you want them to cover DOS as well? There is still much going on in the forums re W7/8 , I read mostly that and a bit of W10. I personally still like XP, but I realize that no one is gonna be writing articles on the great new features in XP. I will make this prediction:most people will be running W10 in a year or two. Maybe even you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by compiler View Post
    With answers like this, the fact that you were thanked 81 times in 89 posts in mystifying

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    I understand the initial focus on a new OS, and I am sure that the novelty will indeed wear off before long. The coverage will also fall, especially if marketing data shows that most people haven't tried or stuck with Windows 10.

    Moreover, one reason a lot of users frequent this site is because of the excellent advice Susan Bradley gives on the monthly updates. That advice will inevitably become redundant in respect of Windows 10 as the question of whether to install, hold, or hide an update is meaningless if the user has no control over the installation of updates. I know that Susan has organised a petition for greater control over updates, and I fear that if Microsoft are able to persist with the present system for Windows 10 then it is only a matter of time before it is also applied to the other Windows versions - probably via an update that we shall be told very little about!

    Like all the imminent changes to the site and its newsletter, I'm willing to cut the team some slack on this issue for the time being, but as a committed Windows 7 user and subscriber with no interest in Windows 10 or emails that invite me to click on a link I am keeping a watchful eye on things...

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