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    Microsoft finally agrees to provide info on Win10 updates

    Maybe Susan's petition finally got some attention after all although there is no mention of when MS will give more info on updates.
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/micro...s-495574.shtml

    Obviously, Myerson has used this occasion to praise Microsoft's new collaboration with users, saying that it's all living proof that they are actively listening to our opinions (we're still waiting for tabs in File Explorer, by the way).

    “As an example of direct response to feedback we’ve received, we will be improving our documentation of what has changed within any individual update, and improving scheduling options for when updates are installed. This collaboration with Insiders is invaluable to our team, and we continue to welcome anyone who wants to work with us on the future of Windows 10,” Myerson has recently said.

    Right now, it's not yet clear when Microsoft actually plans to provide us with information on the Windows 10 updates it ships, but given the fact that Threshold 2 is just around the corner, this would be a good moment to start doing so.

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    I'm actually torn; still, since so long a Win10 machine is online it gets an update, I have no real problem for M$ telling what an update does. I would wait a week though; that way no hacker can exploit the flaw.

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    The cumulative updates remain a problem. I understand that from MS's point of view, they are a far simpler way to distribute updates than having to put each piece under a separate update. But what MS seems have problems grasping is that such an approach will only work in an environment where every copy of the OS is (nearly) the same.

    Even if they can someday reach the Nirvana of having every copy of Win10 the same, they can't do the same for the installed software; and that's what's most likely to be broken by an update.
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    I found this interesting:
    If you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1, then you have the option of turning off automatic updates. We strongly discourage this in today’s connected world because of the constant risk of internet threats. If you choose to do so, we recommend manually checking Windows Update frequently, perhaps when you are on a non-metered network and consider the installation of all “Recommended” and “Important” updates. Windows 10 will not automatically download updates on a metered connection unless there is a security issue addressed within the update. In addition, Windows 10 contains a number of features for those on metered connections, including monitoring data usage by application and setting data usage quotas.
    http://blogs.windows.com/windowsexpe...to-windows-10/ From a MS link on the page you linked to.

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    @wavy
    That's why I have always used "Never check for Updates" and always check manually.

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    I was trying to point out the metered connection stuff.
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    If MS accepts the need to provide more guidance on what a W10 update will do I might be content. It is disappointing to see, in W7, for KB3075249, KB3080149, KB3068708, etc all had, on the update page,
    “Install this update to resolve issues in Windows”
    Only by using the linked url was it possible to see what it actually did. The MS comment was potentially misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    Windows 10 will not automatically download updates on a metered connection unless there is a security issue addressed within the update.
    I don't understand why only wireless connections can be set as metered in Windows 10. It's as if Microsoft thinks that all wired connections have unlimited download quotas.

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    As a rule, most if not all metered connections are 3G/4G wireless. The wired connections have very high quotas in every case I'm aware of in the US. I'm not familiar with the rest of the world.

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    The rest of the world is different, of course.

    cheers, Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul T View Post
    The rest of the world is different, of course.

    cheers, Paul
    Are any of the wired connections metered in your part of the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceR View Post
    I don't understand why only wireless connections can be set as metered in Windows 10. It's as if Microsoft thinks that all wired connections have unlimited download quotas.
    Did not note that
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    I have a 20GB monthly limit on my wires, it was 10GB until recently and I managed to exceed it a couple of times. If I want unlimited I just have to pay more.

    cheers, Paul

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