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    How can a Windows 10 user maintain his sanity?

    How can a Windows 10 user maintain his sanity?

    I have postponed this kind of posting for many months since I took the unwise decision of converting Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 in my Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga laptop. I had problems with Windows 8.1, the worst of all was the delay of 1 or 2 minutes I had frequently to endure before an open dialog box showed me the contents of a directory in order for me to open a file from any windows application. As this was happening very frequently, I took the decision in August 2015 of upgrading to Windows 10 on this laptop. My decision to upgrade on another laptop with Windows 7 was wisely postponed until later in the future.



    After the upgrade, the problem with the delay with the open dialog disappeared forever, but I got much worse problems of stability. At the time of the upgrade I was developing a file and directory encryption windows application using Lazarus (a Delphi clone). Suddenly, after the upgrade I started getting complete freezes of the computer. This was sometimes happening when I was test running the application. Everything would freeze, no keyboard or mouse reaction whatsoever. The only way out was forcing the laptop to reboot by pressing the on/off button for more than 10 seconds. This happened some 10 times in the course of several weeks, until I decided to close and start again the Lazarus development application more frequently, instead of leaving it open thru 'sleep' or hibernation cycles.


    Another anomaly I found was that after returning from sleep or hibernation I noticed that one or another application would be started, that I had never used, or that open applications would sometimes show up in a different status than the one it initially was, when I initiated the sleep or hibernation action.


    But the worse of all anomalies occurred today for the second time (the first time had been some 4 weeks ago). I woke the laptop back from hibernation and I got the log-in screen. As soon as I moved the mouse or I started entering the password, windows started “talking to me”, describing which key I was entering or describing which text was under the mouse cursor. Absolutely frustrating! I had never asked windows to start talking to me! This is like a virus, a program you never activated starts invading your “windows experience”. After I entered the password I pulled the Task Manager, found the culprit (“screen reader” , “narrator.exe” and killed it). Then I went over to my normal activities, in this case to writing a reply to a Skype message. I was writing the reply and suddenly my screen disappeared and was replaced by the “log-in” screen, asking for the password, and accompanied again by the “virus-like” voice of the “screen reader”, the application that I had killed some minutes earlier. And this time my windows password was rejected repeatedly, thus my only option was to kill windows again, by pressing the on/off button for longer than 10 seconds.

    The pattern I described was the same as about 4 weeks earlier, only that at the time I was writing an email when I got interrupted by the “log-in screen” with the “screen reader” talking to me and the rejection of my password, time and time again. The frustration caused by this Windows behavior is very big. When I am working, I don’t want to be interrupted and impeded.



    Later today, after rebooting, I started looking for a way to prevent the screen reader (narrator.exe) from interfering with my activities. I found the configurations for that horrible program, and found out that Microsoft did not conceive that a user might not want to have that program running at all: there was no “disable” feature. Thus I went ahead and discovered the 4 locations inside the windows directory where that application was located, I changed the ownership of each application (using the properties of each “narrator.exe” file) and renamed them on 2 locations and removed them on the other 2. I hope sincerely that the next Windows update will not again reinstate that horrible “virus-like” application.



    If I compare my experience with Windows 10 now with previous experiences of past windows versions, I must say that the frustration with Windows 10 is only matched with the frustrations I had some 10 years ago with Windows Vista.

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    If you have installed Windows 10 within the last 30 days, you can roll back to your previous version.

    If it has been more than 30 days, hopefully you made a full disk image beforehand to restore from in case it didn't work out.

    It looks like you were having issues with Windows 8.1 before the upgrade...a new version of the OS often does not fix that.

    Windows 10 is not for everyone.

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    As JW has said, you have probably carried your Win 8.1 problems over which are manifesting in a different way.

    The slowness in opening anything could have been because of an AV program checking the files - which one are you using ?

    I'm not sure if the following elevated commands would do anything for you in Win 10, but whatever was causing the problems for you in Win 8.1 could have screwed up the upgrade and if you have any means of reverting, then it would probably best to do that - get Win 8.1 working possibly with a Refresh and then upgrade again if you still fancy Win 10.

    Open a Command Prompt (Admin) and enter - (note the space before each forward slash)

    dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup

    dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth (this can hang on 20% but will complete)

    sfc /scannow

    exit

    Then reboot.

    You could also try these cmds in Win 8.1 before going for a Refresh or Reset.

    If the sfc /scannow reports it is unable to repair some files then run SFCFix.exe to see what that reports which you can copy & paste into the reply box if you want.

    http://www.sysnative.com/niemiro/apps/SFCFix.exe (active link)

    I've had to look for an alternative link for SFCFix.exe as http://thetechcookbook.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi which is where I would normally link seems to be screwed up, although it does say suspended page.

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    If you have your Windows 7 Product Key and a backup of your data, you could do a clean install of Windows 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prescott View Post
    If you have your Windows 7 Product Key and a backup of your data, you could do a clean install of Windows 7.
    The machine in question was upgraded from Win 8.1 with no mention of its pedigree as to whether that was upgraded from Win 7.

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    if post#3 does not rectify the situation I recommend a clean refresh re-install or a complete rollback to Windows 8.1 .
    *Ensure that you have backups of all your programs and UPDATED versions of ALL drivers for W10.
    *Also ensure that Lenovo has your device listed as upgradable to W10 before doing anything, if not
    roll it back to 8.1.
    *Check the W10 forum sticky section for Windows 10 privacy setting configurations and how to remove or
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