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    Upgrading to Windows 10, Build 10586 released on November 2015

    Yesterday my PC got upgraded to the latest build of Windows 10 (Build 10586). It took a while but everything went well as far as I can tell. There were a few things that I thought I would mention though.....

    1. I performed a Windows 10 reset after first migrating from Windows 7 to Windows 10 therefore I didn't have a Windows.old folder on my C: drive but with the upgrade to this build I now have this folder. I'm not sure if I have a problem with this as the prescribed method of removing this 15.1 GB folder thru Disk Cleanup doesn't work because there is no entry for "Previous Windows Installation" to select. I'm not sure if this is intentional or whether it will appear after a time.

    2. After the upgrade to build 10586 I noticed that all of the update history was deleted and you start off with a clean slate. I thought this was a bit odd since I have Office 2010 and many of the updates were for that product and not Windows 10 and I don't know why you would remove the history on those apps.

    3. Since my PC upgraded just fine I fired up my HP Laptop and tried Windows Update and it said my laptop was up to date despite the fact that it's been turned off since prior to the build being released. I checked and there is already some question as to whether Microsoft is intentionally delaying or spreading out the upgrade or whether there's a problem that's now preventing my laptop from upgrading. Anyway, several posts on the internet said that you could upgrade to the migration tool and not wait so that's what my laptop is doing right now. Note that my laptop did check for updates and did not generate any error when it said none were available so I'm not sure why Windows Update did not inform me that the upgrade was available.

    Update..... My laptop just finished updating to the 10586 build via the migration tool and everything was fine after the upgrade and the same behavior I noted in #1 and #2 were the same on my laptop as my desktop so that must be how things are working with this release.

    Please add to this post if you see the same behavior on your PC's and Laptops or you see different behavior.
    Last edited by Moondoggy451; 2015-11-16 at 13:49. Reason: Update

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    Run the update check a few times and maybe it will get the message. Might be a timing/load issue, but it has worked for me!

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    1. Win10 10586 1511 Build 10586.3 does appear to be an Upgrade, did the same things on the 3 I've done.

    2. Exactly the same on the 3 I've done except I have Office 2013 on one, Office 2003 on one now long unsupported] and no Microsoft Office on the third [has LibreOffice 5].

    3. That's true for the version running but may have not had time to get the newest build.

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    3. Since my PC upgraded just fine I fired up my HP Laptop and tried Windows Update and it said my laptop was up to date despite the fact that it's been turned off since prior to the build being released. I checked and there is already some question as to whether Microsoft is intentionally delaying or spreading out the upgrade or whether there's a problem that's now preventing my laptop from upgrading. Anyway, several posts on the internet said that you could upgrade to the migration tool and not wait so that's what my laptop is doing right now. Note that my laptop did check for updates and did not generate any error when it said none were available so I'm not sure why Windows Update did not inform me that the upgrade was available.
    My HP laptop hasn't upgraded yet either. I think I will wait for awhile longer.

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    My desktop updated yesterday.

    The update uninstalled cpu-z, a pop-up said it was not compatible. I downloaded and installed it again, runs fine. I'm pretty sure I had the most recent version since I just installed Win10 a few weeks ago. What bothers me most about this is what other apps in the future Microsoft might decide to uninstall on me. I'd hate, for example, to lose access to my companies VPN every time Windows updated...

    My desktop gadgets don't work; the update didn't uninstall them but they won't run. I'll have to try reinstalling. Can't be without my clock and CPU meter. I tried using Modern apps for this but the Modern clock app is ugly beyond imagination, can't find a decent CPU Modern app, nor a weather app that doesn't take a huge chunk of screen real estate

    Haven't noticed anything else, but I'll post if I do.

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    I put this in another post but I'll add it here too. After the upgrade I noticed that Microsoft made Edge the default app for viewing PDF files but when I would open a PDF I would get a pop up from Adobe Reader asking if I wanted Reader to be the default app for PDF's. When I would say YES it would fail and prompt me again the next time. The only way to change the default is to open Setting, System, Default Apps and then select "Choose Default Apps by File Type".

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    Still no update here. Evidently MS is passing it out slowly. Guess I'll wait til they decide to update my laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy95 View Post
    Still no update here. Evidently MS is passing it out slowly. Guess I'll wait til they decide to update my laptop.
    Waiting is certainly an option but I wanted my laptop updated and ready to go for an upcoming trip so I just went followed the tutorial I found at http://www.windowscentral.com/use-me...date-windows10 and I had no issues.

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    Following WS instructions (I think) for making an iso CD, I downloaded MediaCreationToolx64.exe back in August. Can I use it instead of redownloading the tool if I follow the tutorial that Moondoggy recommended?

    I'll probably wait a while longer, but the idea of doing the upgrade myself at a time I choose is very attractive, especially since I work and browse during the day and shut down every night.
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    I was offered 1511 the other day and installed it. After installation a large number of programs that were installed and running fine on my computer with the prior version of Windows 10 were removed (yet I was still subjected to the message that stayed on my screen for more than a minute that told me that all of my files were right where they were before).

    I ended up reverting back to where I was from a disk image, and checked the box to defer upgrades. I am very nervous now; I have committed to Windows 10 on the main machine I work on daily, but have no idea what Microsoft will do to me from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneJDTuttle View Post
    Following WS instructions (I think) for making an iso CD, I downloaded MediaCreationToolx64.exe back in August. Can I use it instead of redownloading the tool if I follow the tutorial that Moondoggy recommended?

    I'll probably wait a while longer, but the idea of doing the upgrade myself at a time I choose is very attractive, especially since I work and browse during the day and shut down every night.
    I used the MCT process to download the .iso files, both 32-bit and 64-bit, then burned them to DVD using Roxio Easy CD and DVD Creator program. I now am using those discs for updating several Notebooks to 10586.0 then using WU to bring the computers up to 10586.11. The discs contain both Home and Pro versions and will update only the version already there. One I've already done had an early screen that seemed to offer Pro but actually installed Home.
    Last edited by Berton; 2015-11-19 at 08:27.

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    Berton, my question relates to *when* you downloaded MCT and burned your iso files.

    I just want to know (from anybody), before I go fixing what ain't broke and start the MCT upgrade (not the clean iso install!), whether I need the latest version of MCT instead of my August version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneJDTuttle View Post
    Berton, my question relates to *when* you downloaded MCT and burned your iso files.

    I just want to know (from anybody), before I go fixing what ain't broke and start the MCT upgrade (not the clean iso install!), whether I need the latest version of MCT instead of my August version.
    I started the 32-bit download late Tuesday before going to bed and got the 64-bit version Wednesday morning. I used the disc 3 times yesterday.

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