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    Unhappy Booting directly to Macrium Reflect Free "Rescue Media" on USB flash drive

    Installed Macrium Reflect Free Version 6.1.909 64-bit on my Dell Precision Tower 5810 running Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit.

    Assuming that when I need the Macrium Reflect Free Rescue Media, I probably will not be able to boot into Windows and will need to be able to boot directly into the Macrium Reflect Free Rescue Media on a USB Flash Drive.

    Prepared the 2 GB USB Flash Drive for Windows PE by running an elevated command prompt (i.e. made it bootable).
    Created the Rescue Media on the USB Flash Drive.

    Determined from Dell that holding down the F12 key while powering on my system was the way to boot directly into the Rescue Media on the USB Flash Drive.

    Also tried the F2 key.

    Tried the F12 key & the F2 key numerous ways - including while standing on my head, while scratching my @%$^, etc., etc.

    Nothing worked.

    Obviously, booting into anything but Windows with the UEFI booting standard on newer computers is difficult as best.

    Researched this extensively at other sources & still nothing works.

    My hope is that someone who has used Macrium Reflect Free for some time has found the magic solution for this problem.

    All input will be greatly appreciated.

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    Steven,

    Don't hold down the F12 key. Just keep tapping it as you boot until you hear a beep. You should then get the boot menu that will let you select your USB device. Make sure your Dell is bootable from USB (BIOS Setting). I boot all the time from USB keys and HDs w/macrium and all is well on all 4 of my Dell computers (1 Desktop {UEFI Secure Boot Enabled} & 3 Laptops {1 w/UEFI Secure Boot Enabled} ).

    HTH
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    My fault - I should have been more specific when I said I tried the F12 & F2 keys numerous ways.

    I did try tapping, holding down, holding down with the Shift key doing each before I turned on the System, after I turned on the System, at the Dell logo, etc., etc., etc.

    Macrium said that what I did made my USB Flash Drive bootable - but what specifically should I do to verify that?

    Additionally, if I determine that the USB Flash Drive is not bootable, what other method could I try to make it bootable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredGeek View Post
    Steven,

    I boot all the time from USB keys and HDs w/macrium and all is well on all 4 of my Dell computers (1 Desktop {UEFI Secure Boot Enabled} & 3 Laptops {1 w/UEFI Secure Boot Enabled} ).

    HTH
    RG that is the first I have heard that you could boot a USB drive w/ secure boot enabled. I will try it on my 8.1 laptop when I get the chance.

    OP you might try disabling secure boot just for kicks. and fastboot. You can get to bios/uefi via err well now I don't remember how it works in W8 one of the system repair type options. Some one will come along who knows if you can't find it.
    FWIW I can boot no problem UEFI only w/ my Macrium usb drive. And not a newer version of Macrium either.

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    I thought UEFI Secure Boot had to be disabled to boot up with an USB ?

    @ Steven - are you actually getting into the BIOS when you tap F2 or into the temporary boot change when you tap F12 ?

    It looks like it's own burner should make the USB bootable.

    http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/How_t...nvironment.htm

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    Might check that the USB drive is formatted as FAT...

    From Macrium...

    Boot Mechanisms

    Computers boot can boot using one or both of the following mechanisms.

    MBR/BIOS. This will boot from either the primary FAT or NTFS partition that has been set active
    uEFI. This will boot from a FAT partition only.

    Most modern computers can boot either method. However, some tablets and computers with secure boot enabled may only be capable of uEFI booting. Older computers will only boot MBR/BIOS. uEFI booting requires a FAT filesystem.


    http://knowledgebase.macrium.com/dis...B+rescue+media

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    ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

    Using Fred Langa's guidance in "How to solve UEFI boot and startup problems" dated 12-11-14, I was able to determine that the Macrium Reflect Free "Rescue Media" that I created on a USB Flash Drive is bootable.

    But, I still can not boot directly to the USB Flash Drive.

    I may try wavy's suggestion to disable secure boot and fastboot.
    But, I really would not like to have to keep those 2 disabled all of the time just for the rare case where I cannot boot into Windows & have to boot directly to the Macrium Reflect Free Rescue Media USB Flash Drive.

    If there is not already, there should be a better way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudo15 View Post

    @ Steven - are you actually getting into the BIOS when you tap F2 or into the temporary boot change when you tap F12 ?

    It looks like it's own burner should make the USB bootable.

    http://www.macrium.com/help/v5/How_t...nvironment.htm
    No to both.

    Making the USB Flash Drive bootable requires the "Preparing a USB stick for Windows PE" (by Macrium) that I mentioned in my initial post.

    In every attempt, my System always boots into Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoods View Post
    Might check that the USB drive is formatted as FAT...

    From Macrium...

    Boot Mechanisms

    Computers boot can boot using one or both of the following mechanisms.

    MBR/BIOS. This will boot from either the primary FAT or NTFS partition that has been set active
    uEFI. This will boot from a FAT partition only.

    Most modern computers can boot either method. However, some tablets and computers with secure boot enabled may only be capable of uEFI booting. Older computers will only boot MBR/BIOS. uEFI booting requires a FAT filesystem.


    http://knowledgebase.macrium.com/dis...B+rescue+media
    Yes, I did format it as FAT as spelled out in the Macrium "Creating rescue media"

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    Ok first time I have booted w8.1 in weeks. My Macrium works just fine w/ secure boot enabled (not that I did not believe you RG, just wanted to see if it worked on my laptop)

    Now to OP: Are you getting anything pressing whatever function key is called for?
    If not are you restarting or just starting from 'shutdown' which can mean some kinda hybrid hibernation on W8 laptops (mine for instance) to get the UEFI screen you must be going from a RESTART. So the computer cold boots.

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    One approach that I have used is to do the following...

    1. Power off the computer.

    2. Hold down the F2 key.

    3. Power the computer on while continuing to hold down the F2 key.

    You may get some beeps that a key is stuck, but it can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavy View Post
    Ok first time I have booted w8.1 in weeks. My Macrium works just fine w/ secure boot enabled (not that I did not believe you RG, just wanted to see if it worked on my laptop)

    Now to OP: Are you getting anything pressing whatever function key is called for?
    If not are you restarting or just starting from 'shutdown' which can mean some kinda hybrid hibernation on W8 laptops (mine for instance) to get the UEFI screen you must be going from a RESTART. So the computer cold boots.

    All of my power options are for everything to stay on all of the time.
    Nothing ever sleeps, hibernates, etc.

    So, I totally shut down the system. Wait a couple of seconds. Then I press the Power button to turn it back on (with the USB in a USB port on the front of the Tower).

    Always boots into Windows no matter what key (F12 or F2) I press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoods View Post
    One approach that I have used is to do the following...

    1. Power off the computer.

    2. Hold down the F2 key.

    3. Power the computer on while continuing to hold down the F2 key.

    You may get some beeps that a key is stuck, but it can work.
    Been there, done that.
    That attempt was also done while I was scratching my @%^%^#

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    If you have another keyboard, you might try that.

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    I assume F2 and F12 are listed as the keys to press for the relevant functions as F1 or F3 can work on some Dells.

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