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    More "death knell" for WinXP

    Worked on a client's computer yesterday, said she couldn't access AARP's online Sudoku game. Turned out she needed a newer version of Internet Explorer but she had version 8 and there is no upgrade to 9 or 10 for WinXP. New computer time.

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    Soooooo, ...instruct her to use another browser.
    NOBODY in their right mind should be using IE 8 or 9.
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    Yeah - like Firefox. Take the IE icon off of the desktop and put the one for Firefox in its place. No "Death Knell" here for Win XP. Just too bad that IE-8 can't be uninstalled.

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    Here is some information about removing IE8 from XP.

    Two caveats:
    * Uninstalling IE8 will put you back to whichever version of IE was there before. In other words, you will still have IE installed in XP.
    * It is possible that you will first have to uninstall XP SP3 before uninstalling IE8.

    Even if you do uninstall IE8, you'll still have IE functionality installed, running in the background, because beginning with IE4, IE has been hardcoded into Windows. Not sure if that's still the case with Windows 10.
    Last edited by mrjimphelps; 2015-12-09 at 16:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
    Here is some information about removing IE8 from XP.

    Two caveats:
    * Uninstalling IE8 will put you back to whichever version of IE was there before. In other words, you will still have IE installed in XP.
    * It is possible that you will first have to uninstall XP SP3 before uninstalling IE8.

    Even if you do uninstall IE8, you'll still have IE functionality installed, running in the background, because beginning with IE4, IE has been hardcoded into Windows. Not sure if that's still the case with Windows 10.
    Yep, and that's exactly why I said that it's "just too bad that IE-8 can't be uninstalled".

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    Yes, it would be IE6. Far worse than IE8. Bottom line is just don't use it ever.

    But you can lose IE by slipstreaming XP using nLite. I honestly do not think it removes everything because I am not certain that is possible, but it prevents its access by the user.

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    I think just going to Add/Remove Programs and Add/Remove Windows components and "removing" Internet Explorer removes most if not all references to IE, even with IE8 installed. Stealth mode; still there but out of active commission.

    Just be sure Chrome or Firefox or another alternative is already installed of course or the process will probably have to be reversed temporarily to go fetch them.

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    Interesting stats on browser market share...

    https://www.netmarketshare.com/brows...=2&qpcustomd=0

    IE8 ranks 3rd.

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    Instead of changing your browser, another solution is to change your source of Sudoku.

    Pappocom Sudoku is now free, from this link - http://www.waynegouldpuzzles.com/sudoku/ - serves up an unlimited supply of unique Sudoku puzzles, without even having to go on line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berton View Post
    Worked on a client's computer yesterday, said she couldn't access AARP's online Sudoku game. Turned out she needed a newer version of Internet Explorer but she had version 8 and there is no upgrade to 9 or 10 for WinXP. New computer time.
    Way too much BS on tha AARP site IMHO.
    Try:http://www.komoroske.com/sudoku/Best I have found!
    And all the other advice to use another browser as well.

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    I don't see why the client needs a new computer just because IE is not fit for purpose. You can remove it as a Windows component; that removes it from the Start Menu, which is enough for most non-computer-savvy people.

    Just change browser is all you need to do.

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    No need to uninstall IE...it can be disabled.

    See this article from Susan Bradley in the section Disable Web browsing...

    http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...drops-support/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwoods View Post
    No need to uninstall IE...it can be disabled.

    See this article from Susan Bradley in the section Disable Web browsing...

    http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/...drops-support/
    Just one caveat with that: you need IE if you want to manually check for updates (Windows XP updates may have finished, but updates for other Microsoft programs have not).

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    XP is like a well cared for antique auto. A little TLC will keep it running as long as the owner wishes.
    And there's no reason why XP can't run today as good or better than it did 15 years ago.

    I have several old XP PC's here, that I keep updating and pampering like an antique car, and they all just keep on running like a champ.

    I'm currently updating an old HP, built in 2000, with XP on it. I just upgraded Firefox tonight. And, the PC has a wireless card in it, with a little 4" antenna on the back. As soon as I turned it on tonight, for the first time in months, it came right up, and went right on the internet as fast as any new PC. Actually faster than some.
    It's running XP Pro/SP3 with only 512 mb ram and a 160GB IDE hard drive.

    The secret to getting performance out of an old PC is don't overload it with TSR's, and definitely minimize the number of Services running in the background.

    I have a lot of fun with my old XP PC's. XP was just so simple to tweak, tune and work with.
    It accepted Firefox 43 without a whimper. IE is just a memory!

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    What are you using for AV/AM protection?

    This article compiled 2 years ago indicates that many vendors could be dropping support in 2016.

    https://www.av-test.org/en/news/news...tect-xp-after/
    Last edited by jwoods; 2016-01-05 at 19:58. Reason: Added link to AV-TEST article.

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